[Marxism] Guevera kids in Tehran:" Islamist, Socialist Revolutions Don't Mix"

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Sun Oct 7 17:10:09 MDT 2007


Jim Farmelant wrote:
> I am not at all sure that's what Yoshie is saying.  I think
> her point is that the struggle against de jure discrimination
> is insufficient for ending oppression.  Indeed, the abolition
> of de jure discrimination, if unaccompanied by a class-based
> politics, can wind up making capitalism stronger, and
> can leave de facto racism and sexism stronger, even
> though de jure racism and sexism might have been
> abolished.  From a Marxist standpoint, this is not
> a particularly  remarkable point.  As you may recall,
> back in the 1960s. both Malcom X and Dr. King
> came to rather similar conclusions themselves.

Lenin's Tomb offered a similar attempt to probe Yoshie's brain, but I am 
afraid that it is much simpler than this. She is offering a workerist 
analysis of struggles for example that end de jure discrimination 
against gays. Her excuse is that they are not sufficiently working 
class, like Blacks. I heard the same crapola in the SWP in 1974. It is a 
tortured attempt to get the left to accept laws in Iran that make sodomy 
punishable by death.

  > I think that Doug did  have a germ of a point,
> in perceiving the ghost of Christopher Lasch
> in what Yoshie wrote concerning working
> class families, but then again, Lasch actually
> did have a germ of a point on this issue too.

This is not about Lasch. It is about Ahmadinejad.








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