[Marxism] The class nature of the Chinese state

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Thu Oct 18 07:08:47 MDT 2007

Haines Brown wrote:
> Of course, but this is as true of a modern capitalist economy as it is
> of a socialist economy. There must be capital accumulation; this
> accumulation is encouraged and/or controlled at least in part by the
> state because the alternative would be economic anarchy.

What casuistry. The Soviet economy was distinguished by its inattention 
to profit. You can read about this in the market socialist literature, 
Alec Nove in particular. There was an attempt to resolve the distortions 
of the bureaucratic system using market mechanisms, such as existed 
during the NEP but they gave way to capitalism across the board. Yeltsin 
carried out the restructuring of the Soviet economy under the banner of 
an anti-Communist political party, while the same exact restructuring 
took place under the banner of a Communist Party in China.

Haines, it is very nice to hear lectures from you on the abc's of 
Marxism. I do need a refresher course after going through an 
introductory class in 1967, but I will tell you the same thing I told 
Lippmann (it was me, not somebody "anonymous"). If you don't engage with 
the economic details, then your abstractions about China are worthless. 
They are just like ink that a squid throws up to avoid being pinned down.

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