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Gary MacLennan gary.maclennan at gmail.com
Sun Oct 21 15:23:51 MDT 2007


I am sorry I didn't inform you before that I was traveling to Africa for a
program called "Empowering Youth to Fight Racism, HIV/AIDS, Poverty and Lack
of Education, this program is taking place in three major countries in
Africa which is Ghana, South Africa and Nigeria.

 I have found myself in a terrible situation as I'm stranded in Nigeria
because I forgot my lil bag in the Taxi where my money, passport, documents
and other valuable things were kept on my way to the Hotel and am  facing a
hard time here because I have no more money with me and right now am owing
the hotel, the bill of $ 1500 and they want me to pay the bill soon or they
are gonna seize my bag and hand me over to the Hotel Management, I need this
help from you urgently to help me back home, all I need from you  is to lend
me the money to pay the hotel bill and I also need $500 to feed and help
myself back home, this is why am sending you this email, please I need you
to lend me $2,000 to have  my problems here solved. I need this help so much
and in time because I am in a terrible and tight situation.

I will really appreciate any amount you can afford to send me if you can't
afford the $2,000 and I promise to pay you back your money as soon as I
return home. Please let me know asap in order for me to forward you the
details you need to send the money to me. I understand for charges, it could
cost some extra to send money through western union, I promise to return all
charges incurred back to you, this is the only way I can receive money down
here.

Hope to read from you soon.

Please


On 10/20/07, Marvin Gandall <marvgandall at videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> Walter wrote:
>
> > Yes, of course, the Chinese have opened their society up to
> > massive privatization, and there are multi-millionaires in
> > China. Well, there are still plenty of rich capitalists in
> > Venezuela, but we defend Venezuela, don't we? Venezuela's
> > posture in the world is a favorable one anyway, isn't it?
> > Isn't ALBA something progressive that Marxists should be
> > sympathetic to and supportive of?
> >
> > Venezuela today, when it's viewed from a sociological point
> > of view, remains capitalist in its class nature, though it
> > is also one under the leadership of revolutionary leaders
> > who declare their goal is to build a socialism appropriate
> > to the 21st century. This isn't sufficient to meet the so-
> > demanding criteria of the various perfectionistic-minded
> > critics from the Revolutionary Communist Party, from the
> > Spartacists, from the Socialist Action grouping, etc.
> =============================
> But you can't discount their respective trajectories. The Chinese CP and
> Venezuelan Bolivarian leaderships appear to be crossing paths, going in
> opposite directions in their domestic and foreign policies. That's
> arguably
> more relevant than the social structures they respectively inherited.
>
> However, I share Walter's view and others that China is playing a positive
> in world affairs as a counterweight to US imperialism, rather than an
> imperialist rival to it subjegating other nations. Whether it might evolve
> in this direction or whether China is still a "workers state" of some kind
> are interesting questions, but only important insofar as they have
> practical
> implications. For example, would Rohan, who believes China is imperialist,
> stand aside in conflict with the US over Taiwan? Does Walter favour the
> political overthrow of a leadership he generally appraises favourably but
> which presides over what he describes as a "degenerated" workers' state?
>
>
>
>
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