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Gary MacLennan gary.maclennan at gmail.com
Sun Oct 21 15:24:38 MDT 2007


I am sorry I didn't inform you before that I was traveling to Africa for a
program called "Empowering Youth to Fight Racism, HIV/AIDS, Poverty and Lack
of Education, this program is taking place in three major countries in
Africa which is Ghana, South Africa and Nigeria.

 I have found myself in a terrible situation as I'm stranded in Nigeria
because I forgot my lil bag in the Taxi where my money, passport, documents
and other valuable things were kept on my way to the Hotel and am  facing a
hard time here because I have no more money with me and right now am owing
the hotel, the bill of $ 1500 and they want me to pay the bill soon or they
are gonna seize my bag and hand me over to the Hotel Management, I need this
help from you urgently to help me back home, all I need from you  is to lend
me the money to pay the hotel bill and I also need $500 to feed and help
myself back home, this is why am sending you this email, please I need you
to lend me $2,000 to have  my problems here solved. I need this help so much
and in time because I am in a terrible and tight situation.

I will really appreciate any amount you can afford to send me if you can't
afford the $2,000 and I promise to pay you back your money as soon as I
return home. Please let me know asap in order for me to forward you the
details you need to send the money to me. I understand for charges, it could
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here.

Hope to read from you soon.

Please


On 10/21/07, Walter Lippmann <walterlx at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Unquestionably, Venezuela is moving to the left under President Chavez.
> When Chavez came in, Venezuela was totally capitalist, but with a large
> public sector, which was being incrementally privatized by default.
>
> China before the current leadership was completely dominated by
> publicly-owned enterprise, of which large parts have now been privatized,
> so
> the trajectory which Marvin refers to is in the other direction.
>
> Is Cbina moving to the "right"? I'm not sure that something as simple or
> as
> simplistic as the words "right" and "left" have any meaningful meaning in
> this context. The Chinese leadership has opened its society up to massive
> privatization of public resources and to foreign private investment, with
> favorable consequences in rapid economic growth, and unfavorable ones with
> ecological destruction, social differentiation, and much more.
>
> Only some people on the political left who think that China has now become
> capitalist. The Wall Street Journal doesn't think that China is
> capitalist.
> They, and the capitalist class for whom they speak, have a pretty clear
> idea
> of what THEY want. And they don't think China is what they want it to be.
>
> It seems that only some on the left are desperate to affix the
> "capitalist"
> label to the People's Republic of China. And they fight hard for a
> seemingly
> abstract point, with few apparent practical consequences. But if it's not
> a
> mere terminological dispute, what IS involved? Well, those who label China
> "capitalist" (an erudite term which in practice means "bad place") tend to
> oppose Chinese foreign policy in general, and to ignore, disregard or else
> to downplay, the aspects of which are favorable, such as its support to
> Cuba.
>
> My own approach to the world might be called a "Cuba-centric" framework.
> When I think of world developments, I like to ask how they will affect the
> country about which I focus my attention and work. That doesn't mean that
> everyone who has friendly relations with Cuba is someone whose domestic or
> international policies I endorse, but I do want to know how any decisions
> impact Cuba, before jumping up to taking formal positions on this or that.
>
> Were I to think that there was a left-wing, pro-socialist, pro-working
> class
> opposition then I would feel more sympathetic toward them. That's not the
> impression I have of opponents of the Chinese government. They are to the
> right of the Chinese government, not to the left of that government. We
> don't hear the Chinese opposition denouncing the US war on Iraq, the US
> war
> on Afghanistan, the US blockade of Cuba, Israel's war on the Palestinians,
> do we? Those silences, those omissions, seem to me to send a message of
> encouragement, to Washington.
>
> That's why my inclination is to be cautious in relation to such elements.
>
>
> Walter Lippmann
> Havana, Cuba
>
> ======================================================================
> MARVIN GANDALL writes:
> But you can't discount their respective trajectories. The Chinese CP and
> Venezuelan Bolivarian leaderships appear to be crossing paths, going in
> opposite directions in their domestic and foreign policies. That's
> arguably
> more relevant than the social structures they respectively inherited.
>
> However, I share Walter's view and others that China is playing a positive
> in world affairs as a counterweight to US imperialism, rather than an
> imperialist rival to it subjegating other nations. Whether it might evolve
> in this direction or whether China is still a "workers state" of some kind
> are interesting questions, but only important insofar as they have
> practical
> implications. For example, would Rohan, who believes China is imperialist,
> stand aside in conflict with the US over Taiwan? Does Walter favour the
> political overthrow of a leadership he generally appraises favourably but
> which presides over what he describes as a "degenerated" workers' state?
>
>
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