[Marxism] Respect in split
hyl0morphster at googlemail.com
Tue Oct 30 16:58:28 MDT 2007
National Union of Miners president Aurthur Scargill was once asked if he
was surprised that 40 British Trade Unionists were MI5 informers. He
replied "No, I thought there would be more".
That's why they go kerblooey.
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 18:20 -0400, Jscotlive at aol.com wrote:
> Louis writes:
> I plan to look at the Respect controversy but am also interested in
> trying to figure out how these attempts at broader left or socialist
> parties keep going kerblooey. I suspect that the refusal to simply
> dissolve old vanguard parties is key.
> I couldn't agree more. I was a member of the Scottish Socialist Party,
> another united Left formation that split. There have been problems recently with
> united Left formations in Italy and France, and now Respect in England is in
> crisis. This is no coincidence. It isn't the forces involved that are at fault
> as much as the concept, which I think is flawed. The SWP are the largest
> marxist formation in the UK and therein lies the problem. It is inevitable that
> at a certain point their weight of organisation and numbers begins to dominate
> any coalition, which leads to resentment from non-SWP members of said
> coalition. I also have experience of the problem which George Galloway has
> articulated vis-a-vis the SWP with regard to the fact that they come to meetings with
> a predetermined position on things, thus rendering debate and discussion
> meaningless. I don't blame the SWP for this; it is simply a contradiction in any
> coalition or united Left formation that has yet to be bridged. As a former
> member of a vanguard party, the WWP in the US, I really think that they are
> the problem and are currently holding back the Left. The material conditions
> which exist in both the US and the UK are conducive to a mass party type
> formation, one that is open, democratic and bottom up.
> I met last weekend with somebody very close to Galloway the day before the
> Stop the War Conference in London and the dispute is not as black and white as
> some are attempting to make out. The SWP leadership are claiming that
> Galloway and his faction are trying to drive the Left out of Respect. You only have
> to consider some of the figures who have lined up with Galloway to see that
> this is nonsense. People like Ken Loach, Victoria Brittain, Alan Thornett,
> Jerry Hicks, Rob Hoveman, Kevin Ovenden, Ger Francis, are socialists of
> longstanding and can hardly be described as rightist.
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