[Marxism] Respect in split

Philip Dunn hyl0morphster at googlemail.com
Tue Oct 30 16:58:28 MDT 2007

National Union of Miners president Aurthur Scargill was once asked if he
was surprised that 40 British Trade Unionists were MI5 informers. He
replied "No, I thought there would be more".

That's why they go kerblooey.

On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 18:20 -0400, Jscotlive at aol.com wrote:
> Louis writes:
> I plan to look at the Respect controversy but am also interested in  
> trying to figure out how these attempts at broader left or socialist  
> parties keep going kerblooey. I suspect that the refusal to simply  
> dissolve old vanguard parties is key.
> Reply:
> I couldn't agree more. I was a member of the Scottish Socialist Party,  
> another united Left formation that split. There have been problems recently with  
> united Left formations in Italy and France, and now Respect in England is in  
> crisis. This is no coincidence. It isn't the forces involved that are at fault  
> as much as the concept, which I think is flawed. The SWP are the largest 
> marxist  formation in the UK and therein lies the problem. It is inevitable that 
> at a  certain point their weight of organisation and numbers begins to dominate 
> any  coalition, which leads to resentment from non-SWP members of said 
> coalition. I  also have experience of the problem which George Galloway has 
> articulated  vis-a-vis the SWP with regard to the fact that they come to meetings with 
> a  predetermined position on things, thus rendering debate and discussion  
> meaningless. I don't blame the SWP for this; it is simply a contradiction in any 
>  coalition or united Left formation that has yet to be bridged. As a former  
> member of a vanguard party, the WWP in the US, I really think that they are 
> the  problem and are currently holding back the Left. The material conditions 
> which  exist in both the US and the UK are conducive to a mass party type  
> formation, one that is open, democratic and bottom up. 
> I met last weekend with somebody very close to Galloway the day before the  
> Stop the War Conference in London and the dispute is not as black and white as  
> some are attempting to make out. The SWP leadership are claiming that 
> Galloway  and his faction are trying to drive the Left out of Respect. You only have 
> to  consider some of the figures who have lined up with Galloway to see that 
> this is  nonsense. People like Ken Loach, Victoria Brittain, Alan Thornett, 
> Jerry Hicks,  Rob Hoveman, Kevin Ovenden, Ger Francis, are socialists of 
> longstanding and can  hardly be described as rightist.
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