[Marxism] Did Keynesianism save Japan? Will it save the US?
lueko.willms at t-online.de
Sun Dec 21 08:35:26 MST 2008
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:37:01 -0500, Joaquin Bustelo wrote:
> I think that before presenting socialism as the only answer to raising the
> standard of living so high that even people among highly privileged
> compulsive-consumption populations will want to reproduce at
> a high enough rate to maintain their numbers stable or growing,
I don't see why it should be necessary to keep the society growing. Why
not returning to a more stable size of population as has probably existed in
the early beginnings of mankind.
Increased productivity allows a larger part of the population withdrawing
from a larger role in material production. Increasing free time for _all_ can
also mean that we have more time over our life span for youthful growing
and learning and more rest in the old age.
> We can discuss tactics, strikes, economic demands, and all sorts of other
> things PROVIDED that we are clear in our heads that the strategic task of
> socialism in creating new human beings will not be to fulfill the
> consumerist cravings of the proletariat of the imperialist countries, but to
> cure them of that addiction.
Recently I have learned about the concept of "flow" developed by a certain
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, as a form of utmost happyness or satisfaction, and
how that is achieved in _activity,_ and the most in _productive_ activity, and
in idling on the sofa. This made me also think of Karl Marx' remarks about
e.g. composing music can be work, and very intense work, too. "Flow" occurs
when the person is in tune with his work, with his activity, can identify with it
and is in sort of a balance between challenge and ability, als in tune with his
or her surroundings, both human and other.
Here is an interview in which he explains some of his views (don't worry
about the idealist wrappers put mainly by the magazine doing the interview):
So that lets us view a glimpse of how our descendants might enjoy their
lives in a much higher and more intense way that most of humans today, and
this not based on a high level of consumption, but on a high level of
un-alienated work and activity.
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