[Marxism] Blacks versus the New Deal

Charles Brown charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us
Tue Dec 30 13:07:38 MST 2008

Mark Lause 


Ida B. Wells didn't equate the KKK with lynchings, which you seem to
be doing. 

 So I'm absolutely certain that she wouldn't agree with you
that the KKK had a big influence in 1916, a mere year after the
drunken yokels started meeting to play dress-up for the first time....

CB: They must have gotten it going pretty quickly after 1916 according
to wikipedia( or maybe there _were_ some lynchings by the KKK even in
1916, ya think Mark ?)

"Klan groups lynched and murdered Black soldiers returning from World
War I while they were still in military uniforms. The Klan warned Blacks
that they must respect the rights of the white race "in whose country
they are permitted to reside".[64] The number of lynchings escalated,
and from 1918 to 1927, 416 African Americans were killed, mostly in the


Here's a discussion of Wilson:

The film's ("Birth of a Nation)  influence and popularity were enhanced
by a widely reported endorsement by historian and U.S. President Woodrow

President WilsonThe Birth of a Nation included extensive quotations
from Woodrow Wilson's History of the American People, as if to give it a
stronger basis. After seeing the film in a special White House
screening, Wilson allegedly said, "It is like writing history with
lightning, and my only regret is that it is all so terribly true."[53]
Given Wilson's views on race and the Klan, his statement was taken as
supportive of the film. In later correspondence with Griffith, Wilson
confirmed his enthusiasm. Wilson's remarks immediately became
controversial. Wilson tried to remain aloof, but finally, on April 30,
he issued a non-denial denial.[54] Historian Arthur Link quotes Wilson's
aide, Joseph Tumulty: "the President was entirely unaware of the nature
of the play before it was presented and at no time has expressed his
approbation of it."[55]

Another event that influenced the Klan was sensational coverage of the
trial, conviction and lynching of a Jewish factory manager from Atlanta
named Leo Frank. In lurid newspaper accounts, Frank was accused of the
rape and murder of Mary Phagan, a girl employed at his factory.

The lynching of Leo Frank (photograph)

After a trial in Georgia in which a mob daily surrounded the courtroom,
Frank was convicted. Because of the presence of the armed mob, the judge
asked Frank and his counsel to stay away when the verdict was announced.
Frank's appeals failed. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
dissented from other justices and condemned the mob's intimidation of
the jury as the court's failing to provide due process to the defendant.
After the governor commuted Frank's sentence to life imprisonment, a mob
calling itself the Knights of Mary Phagan kidnapped Frank from prison
and lynched him.


So, too, I don't know whether the KKK "liked" what Truman "did."

CB; Try a mild inference , and you will "know" that they did not. If
the Dixicrats left the DP, it is certain that  the KKK agreed with the


what he did that we were discussing was his joining the KKK in 1922.

CB:  FYI, it is ok to extend threads to related topics .


This is no big secret and Truman himself admitted it and discussed it.


CB: Here's the story on why the KKK's people (led by Thurman) left the

At the 1948 Democratic National Convention, Truman attempted to calm
turbulent domestic political waters by placing a tepid civil rights
plank in the party platform; the aim was to assuage the internal
conflicts between the northern and southern wings of his party. Events
overtook the president's efforts at compromise, however. A sharp address
given by Mayor Hubert Humphrey of Minneapolis—as well as the local
political interests of a number of urban bosses—convinced the
Convention to adopt a stronger civil rights plank, which Truman approved
wholeheartedly. All of Alabama's delegates, and a portion of
Mississippi's, walked out of the convention in protest.[101] Unfazed,
Truman delivered an aggressive acceptance speech attacking the 80th
Congress and promising to win the election and "make these Republicans
like it."[102]

Within two weeks, Truman issued Executive Order 9981, racially
integrating the U.S. Armed Services.[103][104][105] Truman took
considerable political risk in backing civil rights, and many seasoned
Democrats were concerned that the loss of Dixiecrat support might
destroy the Democratic Party. The fear seemed well justified—Strom
Thurmond declared his candidacy for the presidency and led a full-scale
revolt of Southern "states' rights" proponents. This revolt on the right
was matched by a revolt on the left, led by former Vice President Henry
A. Wallace on the Progressive Party ticket. Immediately after its first
post-FDR convention, the Democratic Party found itself disintegrating.
Victory in November seemed a remote possibility indeed, with the party
not simply split but divided three ways.

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