[Marxism] Rescuing Lenin from Leninists

chegitz guevara absynthe at gmail.com
Sun Jul 6 21:19:06 MDT 2008

Why do you have to assume someone has a very narrow concept of
socialism? Granted, my conception of socialism does not include Sweden
as a model or the Socialist International, but it's hardly narrow.

Our parties run candidates, not because we think we could win the
Presidency (or in my case, Congress), but because when you are running
for office, people want your opinion on things. I will get more
attention as Marc Luzietti for Congress than I do as Marc Luzietti,
average joe socialist. This enables me to talk to more people about
socialism in a political context. The PSL attempted to run a candidate
in the next county, and we hoped to use our campaigns to complement
each others, even though I'm in the SP, and he's in the PSL, even
though we support different presidential campaigns. The point is
getting attention, and our candidates are getting *some* attention.

As for McKinney "virtually being a socialist" I must assume you have a
conception of socialism so broad as to be without meaning. When I
mentioned the "S" word to McKinney, she literally recoiled. She did a
politician dodge too in regards to my asking her how she felt about
the number of socialists in the Green Party, "Oh, that's very
interesting," (and she backs up.) There is nothing socialist about
her, "virtually" or otherwise. She is a bourgeois candidate seeking
the nomination of a bourgeois party. She opposes capitalism no more
than Ralph Nader or Dennis Kucinich. It's sad and pathetic how many
socialists have sold out their principles to support these bourgeois
candidates. Even sadder is many of them still think they're
revolutionaries. At least the social democrats in *my* party haven't
crossed the class line.

your comrade,

chegitz guevara

P.S. "Rescuing Lenin from the Leninists" is my discussion, based
partly on what I've learned from Comrade Proyect. Google it and you
can find an early rough draft.

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Mark Lause <markalause at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ruthless Critic of All that Exists <ok.president+marxml at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I believe Moore and the SP see the electoral run as an opportunity to
>> "talk to people about socialism". True, one could also talk about
>> socialism without running, but running for President gives additional
>> exposure in terms of media coverage, and hence one gets the
>> opportunity to expose more people to socialist ideas.
> I have to assume that you have a very narrow concept of "socialist
> ideas," but, even so, there are other socialists running.  What's the
> point of having half a dozen purely socialist candidates in the field
> other than for internal organizational consumption?
> This is without raising the question of why you aren't supporting
> McKinney, who proponents of the Reconstruction Party see as a
> virtually socialist candidate.
> ML

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