[Marxism] Rescuing Lenin from Leninists

chegitz guevara absynthe at gmail.com
Mon Jul 7 09:54:19 MDT 2008


And when the votes are counted, all the various socialist candidates
for President, by which I mean actual explicit socialists, not
crypto-socialists that only exist inside your head, will have less
than a single percentage point. If we all banded together to field
*one* candidate, that wouldn't change. So what, exactly, is the point
of all the socialist groups banding together to field a single
candidate? Why should we care how the votes are counted?

You still fail to understand, or at least acknowledge, the whole point
in running socialist candidates in a capitalist system: spreading the
message. It seems you just can't get that the purpose of running
candidates is to spread the word. No matter your claims about being
able to talk to anyone whom you want, the simple fact remains is that
Brain Moore has been running around the country getting in the news,
getting the fact that the socialist movment still exists out, and
discussing his view of socialism. How many mainstream news articles
have been written about you and your politics, Mark?

I don't care if I don't get a single vote (well, it would be something
of a blow to the ego). That's not the point. Since making my candidacy
official, I've been invited to attend the Florida AFL-CIO convention.
Various groups have called, emailed, or sent letters to get my
opinion. People come to me to find out what socialism is all about. If
none of that happened, it would be a complete and utter waste of my
time. I'm not going to get elected. I'm not even going to cause Debbie
Wasserman Schultz to lose to the Republican candidate. I have won some
people over to the socialist movement. Right now, while writing this
very post, I received a call to set up an interview. That's the point.

your comrade,

chegitz guevara
SUN! SURF! SOCIALISM!

> Regardless of what prayers are in your head or your heart, in every
> real sense, you are asking voters to vote for your club and against
> other clubs, equally whether they are other socialists, independents,
> Democratic or Republican.  That's how the votes are counted.
>
> If it were otherwisse, the various socialist grouplets would be
> combined to field a common socialist slate of candidates.  THAT vote
> would be a vote for socialism and not for a socialism defined in terms
> of the organization.
>
> ML




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