[Marxism] Trawling the oceans to exhaustion

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Tue Jul 8 08:19:02 MDT 2008

On Jul 8, 2008, at 9:49 AM, S. Artesian wrote:

> So the "logic" is:
> 1. Oil is running out.
> 2. Protests by fisherman (and truckers I guess, and soon enough  
> everybody as
> the lights go out) are selfish, short-sighted, useless.  And  
> stupid.  It's
> like demanding the government do something about the amount of  
> daylight.
> 3. The high price of oil is a good thing as it will delay climate  
> change,
> and allow fish to replenish themselves.
> 4. The end of oil is probably a better thing as there will an even  
> longer
> delay to climate change and even more fish.
> 5. The problem is the greed of the fishermen and not, of course,  
> capitalism.
Yes, the problem is not working fishermern, it is giant, state- 
supported capitalist firms operating huge trawlers.  Is it Luddism to  
insist on a return to the artisanal fishing methods of a mere 60 years  
> There is a point of demarcation between Marxism and "radicalism,"  
> where the
> latter converges with a sort of reactionary naturalism.  Monbiot's  
> "logic"
> is just such a convergence.

Shane Mage

"Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and does not consent to  
be called Zeus."

Herakleitos of Ephesos

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