[Marxism] work-needs

S. Artesian sartesian at earthlink.net
Wed Jul 9 16:02:31 MDT 2008

I think you contradict your first assertion, by your final assertion in the 
paragraph, but I'm not really sure what you are driving at.

But regarding the first assertion: "Somebody who can carry more weight in 
the "first phase" gets paid more based on producing more use values per 
hour."  Marx specifically does not make this distinction.  He talks only 
about a chit, a token, a receipt for labor time without regard for 
"strength" and/or the quantity of use-values produced.

Regarding the last assertion:  I can't figure out what you mean here. In the 
first assertion, you get paid more for more use values per time unit. Here 
you say that others would have to work longer hours.  Are you arguing that 
someone who works ten hours in a mine that has less rich seams of ore will 
not be paid -- will not be able to get as many goods for his/her needs--in 
this "first phase"-- as someone who works 6 hours, or 10 hours, in a mine 
with ore of greater richness, easier access, and most importantly, more 
advanced machinery?

That's what I think the logic of your positions comes down to, and in my 
view, that's no phase of socialism at all.

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From: "Charles Brown" <charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us>
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Subject: [Marxism] work-needs 

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