[Marxism] Nader and Peak Oil

La Sainte lasainte at earthlink.net
Sun Jun 8 11:32:16 MDT 2008

First of all, the earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old. It has a diameter of about 8,000 miles. Minerals were formed when the earth was formed. Therefore, minerals can be found throughout the earth's interior, the lighter minerals (my guess) tending to be closer to the surface.

Life did not come on the scene in abundance until .5 billion years ago (the Cambrian Period). Because all life has existed on the surface (land and water), all decomposed (oil and coal) organic matter will not be found more than a few miles into the earth, even if we include the results of post-Cambrian tectonic plate shifting (earthquakes). The deepest oil well to date is 7 miles. Even if at some point oil is discovered 50 or even 100 miles below the surface, not only would the extracting be very, very expensive, it still does not compare to the almost limitless abundance of most minerals. 


>On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:49 AM, La Sainte <lasainte at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 1. What makes oil different than other minerals? If Hubbert in his bell
>> curve is indeed describing the "natural" course of production of a
>> mineral, then is there a bell curve governing production of... coal?
>> copper?  tin?
>> Oil is not a mineral like copper and gold. It is the advanced stage of decomposed organic matter. Therefore, the source is limited. We are running out of oil.
>I'm not sure I understand -- what does something being organic or
>inorganic in origin have to do with how limited its source is? If you
>mean that new oil is not being created, well, new minerals are also
>not being created. Chemical elements can transform into one another
>only in exceptional situations (e.g. nuclear reactions in the interior
>of stars) but not otherwise. The organic/inorganic distinction seems
>hardly relevant here.

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