[Marxism] Karl Marx vs the crisis-deniers
fuerdenkommunismus at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 11 01:23:20 MDT 2008
> Heinrich's statement is pretty general and could be
> given a number of conflicting interpretations.
I think he states rather unambiguously that crises are
an essential part of capitalism, not some aberration.
> You insult *me* in order to avoid responding to the
> *point* I make.
I apologize if I was insulting. I am not trying to
avoid anything, I was just frustrated by what I
perceived to be a series of cheap dismissals
("Schumpeterian", "Proudhonist", "Social Democrat")of
> Doug is always interesting, but I don't necessarily
> agree with everything he says. To use the argument
> from authority is pretty desperate.
No, you misunderstand me. I was not appealing to
Doug's authority, simply noting that he and Michael
have a similar perspective on the centrality of
finance for Marx's critique. Both of them note that
there is too often a tendency among Marxists to view
production as the "real" sphere, while finance is
viewed as some sort of artificial superstructure.
That is why I was frustrated, because it seemed to me
you were attributing to Michael a position that is the
complete opposite of what he says.
Also, I want to return to something that Louis says:
> What relevance does it have for defending immigrant
> workers? Or pushing for immediate withdrawal from
Louis, these are important questions, but they are not
questions to which we can find answers by reading
Marx. However, I think we both agree that it is a
good thing to read Marx, to understand how capitalism
functions? That does not mean that we can draw direct
political conclusions from our reading of _Capital_,
but at least we have a good sense of how the system
(The first issue you named, incidentally, is what I
think the central issue for communists in this period
is: open borders. I think the demand for free
mobility of labor across nations is a non-negotiable
position that all communists should be behind, and
should not be compromising this (that is why I am not
in Die Linke).)
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