[Marxism] On Cuba

Adam Richmond adambrichmond at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 14 23:04:07 MDT 2008

This is a rather abstract view of the Cuban Revolution at best, and distorted at worst.  Comparing state ownership between Israel and Cuba is devoid of dialectical materialist method.  A does not equal A. 

Cuba is deserving of our support, not merely defense.  The destruction of the Cuban state would aid world imperialism.  The destruction of the Israeli state would encourage those who struggle for revolution worldwide.

Adam Richmond

--- On Sat, 6/14/08, yossi schwartz <yossischwartz2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: yossi schwartz <yossischwartz2003 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Marxism] On Cuba
> To: "Adam Richmond" <adambrichmond at yahoo.com>
> Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 10:20 AM
> On Cuba
> While it is necessary to defend Cuba against any
> imperialist attacks and break the US imposed sanctions, it
> is  not  the same as claiming 
> that  Cuba whose economy is based on exchange
> value and the bureaucratic planning is very inefficient and
> leads to a  great waste of labor ,  is a
> socialist state. Cuba is a poor island and the political
> policy of the regime that opposed working class
> revolutions,  for example in Chile, by supporting
> a popular front government, has only led to further
> isolation.
>  Only the working class can build a workers state
> which is  a transitional stage to socialism and
> the Cuban revolution was not a working class revolution but
> a bourgeois revolution, based on the a guerrilla movement,
>  whose based of support was the peasantry
> .  In 1959 the Cuban Communist party controlled
> the working class and this party opposed Castro led
> revolution. In his first visit to the US following the
> revolution, Castro denounced the Communist  party
> as a party striving to imposed a dictatorial
> regime.  The Castroist movement merged later on
> with the Communist party to control the working class
> exploited by the capitalist bureaucracy.
> The fact that the capitalist economy is mostly nationalized
> does not show that Cuba is a workers state. Israel I economy
> for example until  some 20 -30 years ago was
>  mostly nationalized and many people believed
>  for this reason at least in the first years of
> the existence of  Israeli state  and in
> particular because of the Kibutzim that it was a socialist
> state. Needless to say it was nonsense. Israel is and was
> all the time a capitalist state of a very particular kind
> similar to the Rhodesian and South Africa under the
> Apartheid-a  settler colonialist society. 
> The problems we see now in Cuba moving in the direction of
> privatization is not a change of a state, nor relationship
> of production,  but a change of the form
>  of ownership under the same state. All ready
> Engles made the point that nationalized whore house will
> not be a socialism.
> The working class in Cuba need independent
> democratic  trade unions , workers control of the
> nationalized  enterprises  and most of
> all  a working class revolutionary party
> to  overthrow the capitalist state and replace it
> by a workers state based on workers soviets that its
>  highest  executive committee is the
> revolutionary government.
> Most of all the working class in Cuba needs  to
> participate in the world socialist revolution ton smash the
> imperialist control of the world economy.
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