[Marxism] Cubans see hope for change in Obama - SentUsingGoogle Toolbar

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Mon Jun 16 10:45:47 MDT 2008

yossi schwartz wrote:
> What  kind of   a  socialist state is Cuba?  when  the rate of exploitation
> of the workers of Cuba that including social benefit  is higher than in
> Argentina. Workers in Cuba  earn  much less than the working class in
> Argentina.

What are the numbers that lead you to the conclusion that workers in 
Cuba are more exploited than in Argentina? That they earn less? This is 
not how Marx defined exploitation in terms of the production of surplus 
value. Plus, in Argentina the surplus value is privately appropriated by 
a capitalist class that can easily be identified.

Btw, I wrote something over 10 years ago in reply to a state capitalist 
on the old Marxism list. It can be read here:


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