[Marxism] Israel is a death trap for the Israel working class
nmgoro at gmail.com
Mon Jun 30 10:15:29 MDT 2008
2008/6/28, Walter Lippmann <walterlx at earthlink.net>:
> Spanish is not my first language. I was hoping to get
> the point across, but Nestor's points are well-taken.
> Patria is not an easy word to translate since for the
> Cubans it means a good deal more than the mere literal
> "homeland". Well, anyway...
I agree. The Spanish "Patria" is not easy to translate.
Ethimologically it means "the land of the fathers", that is
Fatherland. But it is also related to "homeland" in practical and
I tend to believe that this is a consequence of the fact that our
national revolutions are not fully accomplished. Thus, patriotism here
has a different sense than elsewhere.
And so do terms such as "Patria".
> NESTOR writes:
> I feel I must take exception to Walter's translation. Literally, the
> concept by Martí was "Patria es humanidad", which translates
> adequately as "Homeland is humanity". If Martí, who was a great writer
> besides a strong politician and able soldier, had wanted to write "Our
> homeland is humanity" he would have written "Nuestra patria es la
> humanidad", which in Spanish is as different from "Patria es
> humanidad" as "Our homeland is humanity" in English differs from
> "Homeland is humanity".
> What Martí wanted to stress was that the concrete struggle of the
> Cuban people for national liberation was the _Cuban_ way to be
> humanists, the single valid way to be a humanist, and this in
> opposition to the abstraction of "citizen of the world" that was
> already ravaging too many people of good will in Martí's times.
> "Patria es humanidad" and "Socialism and this Nation are one and
> single thing" (Ho) mean the same, and in a sense they are quite the
> opposite to "Our homeland is humanity". In fact, it would be better
> translated as "Humanity is our homeland", so to say.
> The above said, however, for semicolonial peoples. In the case of the
> Israeli working class, Homeland opposes Humanity in the same way that
> US American Patriotism opposes Humanity.
> WALTER LIPPMANN
> Los Angeles, California
> Editor-in-Chief, CubaNews
> "Cuba - Un Paraíso bajo el bloqueo"
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