[Marxism] Imperialism and the US working class (Was YADL)

Michael Friedman lycophidion at gmail.com
Mon Apr 6 12:12:39 MDT 2009

> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:41:30 -0400
> From: "Joaquin Bustelo" <jbustelo at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Imperialism and the US working class (Was YADL)
> over a period of 20 or 30 years is not a meaningful one, because the
> implicit statement is that 8-tracks and iPods are interchangeable. That may
> be true in some abstract sense of constant dollar equivalence, but for the
> consumer it is not their exchange value but their use value which is
> paramount. Thus the "deprivation" of the worker who with their wages can
> now
> afford only one iPod whereas they use to be able to buy three 8-tracks is
> likely to be perceived as progress by that person. Moreover, the very

And you have the nerve to accuse Waistline of "idealism"?  Your argument
about a secular improvement in living standards (rising real wage) among the
working class over the past decades is... smoke and mirrors.

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