[Marxism] The Prophet Misarmed: Trotsky, Ecology and Sustainability

sabocat59 at mac.com sabocat59 at mac.com
Sat Mar 14 07:00:33 MDT 2009

Schact wrote:

Well, Debs thought that under socialism "All men will be god-like, for all men are potential gods."

Strange coming from a presumed atheist. What exactly does it mean?

I could understand it coming from Norman Thomas, who was after all a believer in the social gospel. 

The proposed explanation still leaves god-like in quotations. How can you be something which presumably does not exist in the first place? And if it does who in hell or god's name would want to be like THAT? 

This Buddhist is puzzled.   

What we have here is a failure of imagination. 

I would much prefer to recite Blake's 


      Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
     In the forests of the night :
       What immortal hand or eye,
 Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?

And what shoulder, & what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain,
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears
And water'd heaven with their tears :
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

Tyger, Tyger burning bright
In the forests of the night :
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?  
My reductionist reading of the poem asks the following question, since the backdrop to "Songs of Innocence and Experience" was presumably Blake's discouragement at the thermidorean excesses of the french revolution. 

Was it god or my workplace?

The working class needs all the characteristics of a tiger at one moment and in the same moment it needs to treat fellow and sister.  workers like lambs.

That kind of strength only comes with the understanding of our own power.  

What media will help to "twist our hearts" and free us of our "mind-forged manacles"?

Other than the intrusion of social reality into our dreamscape. 

Greg McDonald

Historically speaking a difficult amalgamation but totally necessary. 

Greg McDonald
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