[Marxism] Will socialists support socialists in Queensland state election?

n.fredman.11 at scu.edu.au n.fredman.11 at scu.edu.au
Thu Mar 19 21:10:56 MDT 2009

David Walters:

>>What the frack*... quick 2 points for cultural reference answer.<<

Profanity of the 12 Colonies on Battlestar Gallactica. What do I win, Nerd of the Year?

>> ...are they talking about<<

Well there's a lot of US and other material here that's cryptic to me.
But I agree if one is going to bother commenting on possibly nationally
obscure issues here it's reasonable to make the comments of general
interest. Some general issues relating to the somewhat fraught history
of the Australian Socialist Alliance are:

* Objective conditions are going to affect any alliance or regroupment
project. From 2001-2004 SA was buoyed by the anti-corporate and then
anti-war movements. From late 2004 the fourth victory of the
conservative government and the decline of the anti-war movement
demoralised all of the left to some extent. For its part in a public
letter from about May 2005 the DSP stated these changes cast doubts on
its optimistic proposals for SA and that a somewhat more cautious
approach towards a new party was warranted. None of the critics of SA
have made much of the material conditions, or indeed any errors or wrong perspectives of their own preferring to find an easy bogey-person for their disappointments and exaggerate problems and differences.

* The problem of big "I" Internationalism (which in Australia can be
called Pominternism). The ISO grew cold on SA funnily enough just after
the UK SWP decided Socialist Alliances were just sooooo 2003. They
began to exaggerate differences and problems accordingly and began
promoting the completely abstract and imported idea of an Australian
Respect, for which there were and are exactly zero partners. None of
the critics of SA admit to this problem.

* The worth of socialist electoral campigns under the "mass" level.
Even if you have some problems with an organisation, should you at
least formally support a state campaign of, for example, 100+ 
socialists (about 80% of whom aren't in the DSP), putting forward ideas
that to most people would be indistinguishable from one's own? Sure it's
propagandistic, but if anything in this case the Greens' campaign will
be more so, since they have not much better chance of being elected and
their activities and statements will be considerably less connected
with mass struggle. 

On the last point Michael Schembri unfortunately continues to be snide
rather than answer the simple questions of whether he would vote and
advocate for one of the most radical and impressive Indigenous leaders
in Australian history, Sam Watson, and if not who does get his blessing
and why.


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