[Marxism] Come back Karl

Bhaskar Sunkara bhaskar.sunkara at gmail.com
Tue Nov 24 08:15:25 MST 2009

The system collapsed, because of Western bankers and economically it
couldn't have continued for much longer.  Thatcher and Bush both were wary
of any revolutionary ruptures in Eastern Europe and the course of events
didn't suit their model of how the collapse of Stalinism should have
continued.  The system was plagued by its contradictions and collapsed, but
that *doesn't* mean it wasn't a historic defeat for the Left.
 Destalinization didn't occur, but an authoritarian, neoliberal capitalism
took root.  I don't see how the spread of capitalist global hegemony can't
been seen as a defeat for the anticapitalist Left.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Dogan Gocmen <dgn.gcmn at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Dogan:
> Well, this was not my claim. I said that the defeat of first socialist
> attempts was also the defeat of the left in general.
> This includes all sections or fractions of the left. However, leftists
> attacking SU they did not cause the defeat but they
>  contributed to that direction.

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