[Marxism] Nazism and the Arabs: a debate
meisner at xs4all.nl
Wed Nov 25 14:19:04 MST 2009
At 09:14 25/11/09 -0500, Louis Proyect wrote:
Although rather interesting, I didn't see the point of posting this link.
When I went ahead and read the article (by Jeffrey Herf) I was annoyed and
about to write a rebuttal. Then I saw that there already was a thorough
rebuttal (by Richard Wolin, a qualified scholar) in the link underneath it,
so I won't spend my own energy.
Most reprehensible in the article by Herf (and apparently a primary theme of
his book, judging by Wolin's rebuttal) is his attempt to provide the
supposed "link" that justifies the idiotic term "Islamo-fascism":
"But the formulation of Nazi propaganda during World War II and its
dissemination stand as a decisive episode in the development of radical
Apparently he thinks that ideas planted by the Nazis needed some 40 or 50
years to smoulder before sprouting the present Islamic fundamentalists. And
he further insinuates that anti-semitism is a primary component of Islamic
fundamentalism, as the Zionists would like us to believe. He further reveals
his bias in this regard:
"In the first months after the war, as the scope of the Jewish catastrophe
in Europe was being revealed, Arab and Islamic radicals showed no sign of
reconsidering their hostility to Zionism."
Right. The Palestinians whose land was being gobbled up by Europeans with
the purpose of recolonizing that land after the British would leave, were
supposed to give up that opposition because of the news that in a different
continent there had been a genocide against members of the same religion.
Finally he goes on to quote (as the Israelis love to) from the Hamas charter
which indeed includes some very anti-semitic language. Again he conveniently
ignores that Hamas has, in practice, renounced such positions, written about
20 years ago I believe, under the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood which
spawned Hamas (along with covert aid from Israel). And anyway it doesn't
have anything to do with the struggle of Hamas and the Palestinian nation
against Israel, again unless you accept Israel's claim that anti-zionism is
anti-semitism. For a more current position of Hamas regarding the Holocaust,
see this article written by Bassem Naeem, the minister of health and
information in Gaza:
Hopefully the points I made are not controversial among the members of this
list, and I question what's new about the Herf article (and book). Seems
like just more of the same Islam-bashing that is used to deflect attention
from the crimes of Israel in the present.
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