[Marxism] Rosa L. replies to RL and LK

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Mon Oct 5 21:57:42 MDT 2009

On Oct 5, 2009, at 9:57 PM, XxxxXxxx XxYyXxx wrote:
> ...where does Rosa account for the social origins of formal logics,  
> whatever kind, she makes such an unwarranted fuzz of? Did logic fall  
> from the sky?...

It is the most obvious of mistakes to ask for the "social origins" of  
valid scientific concepts, whose only origin is the structure of  
reality to which they perforce conform.  The "origin" of "formal  
logics" is mathematics, the method by which mathematical truth (the  
key to science) is discovered.  More immediately, the origin of formal  
logic is *dialectic*, as anyone who has read Platon and his pupil  
Aristoteles cannot be unaware.  Formal logic's propositions apply to  
*one* side of reality--the reality of unchanging, atemporal,  
structure.  They are thus inherently in tension with the other side of  
reality--the reality of constant flux in which all material "things"  
participate.  Dialectical logic unites these two "opposite" sides of  
reality.  From that all else follows.

Shane Mage

> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
> Herakleitos of Ephesos

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