[Marxism] Rosa L. replies to RL and LK

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Mon Oct 5 22:07:32 MDT 2009

On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Shane Mage wrote:

> On Oct 5, 2009, at 9:57 PM, XxxxXxxx XxYyXxx wrote:
>> ...where does Rosa account for the social origins of formal logics,
>> whatever kind, she makes such an unwarranted fuzz of? Did logic fall
>> from the sky?...
> It is the most obvious of mistakes to ask for the "social origins" of
> valid scientific concepts, whose only origin is the structure of
> reality to which they perforce conform.  The "origin" of "formal
> logics" is mathematics, the method by which mathematical truth (the
> key to science) is discovered.  More immediately, the origin of formal
> logic is *dialectic*, as anyone who has read Platon and his pupil
> Aristoteles cannot be unaware.  Formal logic's propositions apply to
> *one* side of reality--the reality of unchanging, atemporal,
> structure.  They are thus inherently in tension with the other side of
> reality--the reality of constant flux in which all material "things"
> participate.  Dialectical logic unites these two "opposite" sides of
> reality.  From that all else follows.
Addendum:  Dialectical logic is to Formal logic as calculus is to  

Shane Mage

> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
> Herakleitos of Ephesos

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