[Marxism] Imperialist control of world petroleum and imperialism assuch (was: The real issue in the Polanski arrest)

S. Artesian sartesian at earthlink.net
Tue Oct 13 09:16:17 MDT 2009


Well, since no one has jumped in to the argument about the role of OPEC and 
imperialism, permit me my usual sarcastic reply to Luko's nonsense:

Right, right.  "Break the control of the imperialist countries over the 
world petroleum market."  HUGE DIFFERENCE!

But you know what?  You still don't know what you're talking about.  Then to 
qualify your ignorance you engage in language games-- "oh no not break the 
power of imperialism, you misunderstand me.  I mean the peacock throne, and 
the royal house of the Saudis, and the representives of the hope-to-be 
bourgeoisie in Venezuela, were trying to break the control of the 
imperialist countries OVER the world petroleum market in 1960."  Right, 
that's so much more subtle, precise, accurate an analysis of OPEC.  Sure 
they were.  And yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus, and he's delivered by 
the oil trucks ever since we switched from coal.


See all prior comments re your dissembling and nonsense spewing.

Track down yet, Luko, the data on China's need to import as much steel as it 
can get, or didn't you make that statement either?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lüko Willms" <lueko.willms at t-online.de>
To: "David Schanoes" <sartesian at earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:29 AM
Subject: [Marxism] Imperialist control of world petroleum and imperialism 
assuch (was: The real issue in the Polanski arrest)


S. Artesian (sartesian at earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-10-13 at 08:02:09 in
about Re: [Marxism] The real issue in the Polanski arrest:
>
>
> My invention?  Here's what you wrote--
>
> "One should remember also that both Iran and Venezuela were among the
> five founding members of OPEC [Organization of Petroleum Exporting
> Countries] in 1960, the cartel of "Third World" countries trying to break
> the control of the "Seven Sisters", i.e. the oil trusts of imperialist
> countries, over the world petroleum market."

  which does not amount to "break the power of imperialism".

  I consciously made a distinction, and you lump it all together. The truth 
is
concrete, and the world is not a binary either-or in black and white.


Cheers,
Lüko Willms
Frankfurt, Germany
--------------------------------
visit http://www.mlwerke.de Marx, Engels, Luxemburg, Lenin, Trotzki in
German

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