[Marxism] self determination for oppressors

Marv Gandall marvgandall at videotron.ca
Sun Oct 18 08:35:28 MDT 2009

Artesian writes:
> Dennis is quite write to point out that there is no such thing as
> self-determination for the Afrikaners in South Africa, for the Israelis in
> the Middle East, just as the French in Algeria were not entitled to, nor
> struggling for self-determination.
So you are both saying that, following the dissolution of the Zionist state, 
you would not support cultural rights for the Hebrew-speaking minority and 
even a limited measure of political autonomy as an interim measure PROVIDED 
these were agreed to by the Arabic-speaking majority in the post-Zionist 

If the the Afrikaners in South Africa and French in Algeria accepted the 
legitimacy of ANC and FLN rule, and the latter were willing to accede to 
minority demands for some (negotiated) measure of cultural and political 
autonomy as an interim means of fostering unity and in the economic 
interest, you would oppose these concessions on principle and condemn the 
governments for agreeing to these demands?

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