[Marxism] Fwd: Materialism and the will. (Was: (no subject))

Rosa Lichtenstein rosa.lichtenstein at googlemail.com
Tue Oct 20 18:20:12 MDT 2009

You can also find a brief summary of the background to this sort of claim, here:


In fact, I summarise nearly all of my essays (in less than 5000 words) here:


So, I am just working out the implications of what Marx said:

"The philosophers have only to dissolve their language into the
ordinary language, from which it is abstracted, in order to recognise
it, as the distorted language of the actual world, and to realise that
neither thoughts nor language in themselves form a realm of their own,
that they are only manifestations of actual life." [Marx and Engels,
(1970) The German Ideology, p.118.]


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jeff <meisner at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> At 00:33 21/10/09 +0100, Rosa Lichtenstein wrote:
>>This is an artifical 'problem' created by a misuse of langauge.
>>More details here:
> Rosa, I would love to hear your views, but I honestly don't have hours to
> spend reading your lengthy essay (which I'm sure you worked very hard on,
> but please understand!). Since you refer to a mere "misuse of language,"
> perhaps you could point us to the portion that explains the language issue
> involved. Or better, just send a relevant excerpt to the list. Or write a
> quick synopsis thereof. When you write very long posts or refer us to long
> tracts, then your ideas won't be read by most of us, whereas a single long
> paragraph which is to the point, such as David sent, will :-)
> - Jeff
>>Rosa L
>>On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:34 PM, David Picón Álvarez
>><david at miradoiro.com> wrote:
>>> Nonsense, 'will' is an incoherent idea.
>>> The mind is a particular organisation of matter in motion. What does it
> mean
>>> to
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