[Marxism] Animal Liberation and Socialism

Suresh borhyaenid at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 28 18:16:28 MDT 2009

To lower the temperature a bit, it's interesting that you mentioned how adrenaline originally taken from horse donors can now be artificially synthesized. Although, we may not like to think in terms that transcend the class struggle, I do think some of the issues related to animal welfare may be amenable to *technological fixes*. Eventually, in vitro meat, for example, is likely to substitute for some percentage of meat products currently consumed. To the extent that it doesn't simply raise the consumption of animal protein altogether, it will lead to fewer slaughterhouses, and thus less suffering. And conceivably, it may be more environmentally friendly as well. You won't have the same levels of methane produced or animal refuse. And this will be a good thing, regardless of whether one wants to call oneself an animal rights activist or not. 

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From: nada <dwaltersMIA at gmail.com>
To: Suresh <borhyaenid at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 4:23:18 PM
Subject: [Marxism]  Animal Liberation and Socialism

Suresh, I actually agree, because your judgment is devoid of 
anthropomorphic moralism. And "we" are making this judgment. You are 
already miles ahead of Singer. Singer and all ALF "types" have no such 
approach to this issue...they use the concept of 'rights' (you have yet 
to do this, I suspect you will not) and elevating animals legally to 
that of humans. We can, and should be, sympathetic to the plight of 
higher animals, our 'near cousins' facing extinction and...cruelty.

But the Singer and Spira creed is that the *biggest* issue is humans 
using animals as food source. Everything else is secondary to this since 
this, in their view, is the biggest moral violation of animal rights as 
it involves the most number of animals. It's been a while since I read 
Singer's material so I don't know if it means everything from bovines to 
herring. I actually don't know if he makes a distinction.


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