[Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Sat Sep 5 21:29:25 MDT 2009

On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:01 PM, Néstor Gorojovsky wrote:
> We Marxists, by the way, only support national movements that forward
> the march towards socialism. Not every such movement does it.

So.  All hail whatever Marxist Pope has decreed infallibly to his  
elect exactly which "proletarian nations" (like those that made a deal  
to divide up the area between them 70 years ago?) are  
"marching" (goose-stepping?) toward socialism and which oppressed  
peoples are too backward, too weak, too willing to accept help from  
suspect quarters, too impure to be anything but
> ..."national" movements that, in fact, seek to destroy larger national
> movements that tend to supersede imperialist domination...
and so must be condemned with scarequotes when they assert their  
democratic rights against imperialist rule by a "larger national  
movement" constituting the second-strongest (but by far the oldest)  
empire in the world.  That, presumably, is what is meant by saying  
that the "national question is a class question."

Shane Mage

> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
> Herakleitos of Ephesos

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