[Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China'shigh speed rail plans

Nestor Gorojovsky nmgoro at gmail.com
Mon Sep 7 13:14:47 MDT 2009

I have also sent long commentaries on ERP to the list, long years ago.

In a nutshell, ERP was never "Trotskyist" in any serious sense.

Their tactics was horrible and (self)-murderous, such as were the other 
tactics of what I have come to call "substitutism on arms". In other 
times, we Marxists used to strongly criticize terrorism. Now we have to 
change the name the creature used to give to herself because the 
powers-that-be have taken it as theirs and have infused a different 
meaning to it.

Their political positions (save for a small fraction which did not last 
too much longer than the "Camporista springtime seasion" early in 1973, 
the "ERP 22 de agosto") were of the stalest left wing anti-peronism. 
Same thing can be said, though with many caveats, of Montoneros or at 
least a good fraction of their leadership.

I have had a very good relation with one of the ERP leaders after 1983. 
They had processed with a strong criticism their former mistakes. 
Amílcar Santucho, that is his name, once told me "nos pasamos de 
voluntad de poder" ("we had too much will of power", which is as honest 
and dramatic an explanation as can be forced into six words (in Spanish).

The question, as always, must be where are the working classes. That is 
where you can find socialism and the seeds of revolutions.

Tom Cod escribió:
> What about the ERP?  Wikipedia has an article on them that I think
> includes links to YouTube stuff on them in Spanish.  they were at the
> heart of a heated faction fight within "the trotskyist movement" back
> in the 70s even though had summarily split from that at the time.
> While they were largely wiped out, Shining Path had more success with
> this strategy in Peru until they too were ultimately defeated.  Then
> again, the demographics of Peru aren't the same as those of
> Argentina.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Revolutionary_Army_%28Argentina%29

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