[Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

Pat Byrne patbyrneme at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 21 22:36:42 MDT 2009

Hi Michael,
Thanks for coming back to me so promptly.
Well if Adam Smith was dishonest that is a very useful beginning!
On the alienation aspect, I wasn't imagining that I was original. Could you
be so kind as to suggest a couple of authors/academics I could start with...

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From: marxism-bounces+patbyrneme=hotmail.com at lists.econ.utah.edu
[mailto:marxism-bounces+patbyrneme=hotmail.com at lists.econ.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of Michael Perelman
Sent: 22 September 2009 04:34
To: Pat Byrne
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:58:14PM +0300, Pat Byrne wrote:
> market', the efficiency of the price system etc.. 
>Thus the overwhelming
> majority of the world's intelligentsia has accepted that despite massive
> evidence to the contrary, capitalism is the most effective means of
> delivering growth and satisfying demand. This is where Adam Smith's models
> needs to be compared to reality. 

My main paper will show how Smith was basically dishonest, beginning with 
his pin factory.

> The second problem I have with Marxist economics is that while the 
> of capitalism are obviously important we need also to be able to offer a
> convincing set of mechanics for an alternative economy.
> Here I think that the broad concept of alienation as applied to the
> process offers a straightforward and easily understandable solution to the
> mass of the population

Many many people have done an excellent job in applying the idea of 
alienation in the way you suggest.

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

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