[Marxism] Can Technology Bring on a World Wide Social Revolution? (Marx answer)
mtomas3 at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 19 08:03:06 MDT 2010
I don't believe there is anything in what Marx or any other true revolutionist has or would say that circumvents the organization and mobilization of the working masses to achieve working class ownership, control, and power over the means of production toward building a communist society. Every means of communication and technical progress that facilitates both the lives and, most importantly, the strategic aims and needs of working class power are, of course, useful, necessary, and desirable. One only needs to see the fight going regarding "net neutrality" to understand that technical progress--whether information technology, machine, biological, or otherwise--involves every struggle for humanity's control over our lives and the struggle for working class power. That proposition has never changed since the inception of capitalism whether workers had looms, teacher had blackboards, or children have cell phones. We may all marvel, or at least breath a sigh of relief, for the ease in our lives that technology has brought. But, That Can Never Allow Us To Believe That Change in Class Relations In Which Capital Is Buried Once and For All Will Happen Just Because We Now Have Laptops To Organize Our Struggles Against the Capitalist Class. Or, did you forget with whom Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and the host of technology entrepreneurs stand?
No, Technology Will Not Bring on World Wide Social Revolution. Facilitate It? Perhaps or Perhaps Not; It's Always Up To Us.
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> Question: Can Technology Bring on a World Wide Social Revolution?
> Answer: No. Manuel
> Karl Marx answer: Yes.
> Karl Marx explanation:
> 5). at a certain stage of their development,
> 6). the material productive forces of society
> 7). come into conflict with the existing relations of production or -
> (this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms) with the property
> relations within the framework of which they have operated up until then.
> 8). from forms of development of the productive forces
> 9). these relations turn into their fetters.
> 10). Then begins an epoch of social revolution.
> 11). the changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the
> transformation of the whole immense superstructure.
> 12). In studying such transformations it is always necessary to distinguish
> between the material transformation of the economic conditions of
> production, which can be determined with the precision of natural science, and the
> legal, political, religious, artistic or philosophic - in short,
> ideological forms in which men become conscious of this conflict and fight it out.
> Just as one does not judge an individual by what he thinks about himself, so
> one cannot judge such a period of transformation by its consciousness, but,
> on the contrary, this consciousness must be explained from the
> contradictions of material life, from the conflict existing between the social forces
> of production and the relations of production. No social order is ever
> destroyed before all the productive forces for which it is sufficient have been
> developed, and new superior relations of production never replace older
> ones before the material conditions for their existence have matured within
> the framework of the old society.
> (1859 Preface to A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy)
> Some comrades answer:
> "Marxist Glossary: Twenty-first Century, Second decade"
> (In the opening era of the Third American Revolution: Proletarian
> Pre-edited imprint 10.5 Projected publication date: April 2011
> Social revolution: (I)
> Social revolution comes about as a result of qualitative development of the
> means of production. An antagonism develops between the new emerging
> material relations connected to and interactive with the qualitatively new means
> of production and the old static social organization of labor, the old
> political superstructure and the old property forms expressed as the political
> relations within the superstructure.
> Marx words ring prophetic.
> "At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of
> society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or - (this
> merely expresses the same thing in legal terms) with the property relations
> within the framework of which they have operated up until then. From forms
> of development of the productive forces these relations turn into their
> fetters. Then begins an era of social revolution."
> Social revolution is a historical process. An existing history of means of
> production, how people are grouped around these means; how the products of
> an existing social organization of labor are distributed becomes displaced
> by a new organization of labor corresponding to new means of production.
> The general distinct stages of social revolution are:
> 1). A qualitative change in the material means of production. The material
> power of productive forces leaps forward as the result of injecting new
> clusters of technology into the existing organization of labor. Without this
> first phase of qualitative change social revolution cannot occur.
> Qualitative changes in the means of production forces a societal social consequence.
> 2). The expansion of productive forces based on the old technology, gives
> way to expansion based on the new emerging technology regime. A revolution
> in social relations begins, forcing its social consequence.
> 3). A political revolution (insurrection) is called forth wherein
> representatives of one of the contending new class or new form of classes seize
> power and society is reconstructed around the new means of production.
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