[Marxism] Gorbachev quote hoax?

Doğan Göçmen dgn.gcmn at googlemail.com
Sat Apr 30 14:44:07 MDT 2011

the autheticity of this quote is not put into question. Rather the people
discussed at that time why he said that in 1999, and not before.
He had later an interview in Spiegel German weekly. If you read German or
have anybody around you who reads German may help with you with this:

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:21 PM, michael a. lebowitz <mlebowit at sfu.ca>wrote:

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>    I just returned from a conference in Beijing on the Fall of the USSR--
> 20 years later. I was surprised to hear several Russians (fighting old
> battles) and Chinese (fighting current battles) cite (as support of their
> Great [Bad] Man Theory) a statement supposedly made by Gorbachev about how
> his subjective goal had been to 'liquidate communism'. Trying to verify this
> statement, though, is not so easy. It is said to have been made in Ankara
> but in some accounts, it is from newspaper interviews when he attended a
> seminar of American University in Turkey and, in other accounts, from a
> radio interview. A Czech journal, DIALOG, is credited as a source in some
> cases and in all cases the Canadian site, 'North Star Compass' ['Dedicated
> to the Re-Establishment of the Soviet Union as a Socialist State'] is the
> immediate source from Feb 2000. I can't, however, find DIALOG, and the
> February 2000 North Star Compass does not at this time include the statement
> (although this site,
> http://www.lalkar.org/issues/contents/mar2000/gorbachev.html) does
> indicate that it was once there. Here's the opening of the quote from the
> above site (one of several repeating it). Can anyone verify it
> independently? As may be guessed, colour me skeptical.
>        michael
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> In an interview he gave on Turkish radio recently, Mikhail Gorbachev, the
> former General Secretary of the CPSU and President of the Soviet Union, made
> the shameful admission that his ambition, all along, was /"to liquidate
> communism". /We publish below the transcript of Gorbachev's interview from
> the latest edition of /North Star Compass/, organ of the Canadian based
> Organising Committee for Friendship and Solidarity with Soviet People.
> *
> "My ambition was to liquidate communism, the dictatorship over all the
> people. Supporting me and urging me on in this mission was my wife, who was
> of this opinion long before I was.
> "I knew that I could only do this if I was the leading functionary. In this
> my wife urged me to climb to the top post.
> "When I actually became acquainted with the West, my mind was made up
> forever. I decided that I must destroy the whole apparatus of the CPSU and
> the USSR.
> "Also, I must do this in all of the other socialist countries.
> "My ideal is the path of social democracy. Only this system shall benefit
> all the people. This quest I decided I must fulfil.
> "I found friends that had the same thoughts as I in Yakovlev and
> Shevernadze, they also deserve to be thanked for the break up of the USSR
> and the defeat of communism.
> --
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