[Marxism] Robert Baer warns that Israel will attack Iran in September
jglastonbury at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 08:28:42 MDT 2011
I know the drumbeat has been banging to go to war with Iran for the past
five years and more, but this piece in Al-Jazeera, centered around Robert
Baer, and some high ranking Israeli officials, sounds credible and
I know Netanyahu is quite a piece of work, but is he really insane enough to
start World War Three? China and Russia would certainly not allow this to
happen without getting actively involved, would they?
I for one, being of prime draft age, hope that this does not happen.
However, I don't have any faith in Obama or Congress being able to pass up
the chance to start and lose another war...
Baer was especially impressed by the unprecedented warning about Netanyahu's
plans by former Mossad chief Meir Dagan. Dagan left the Israeli intelligence
agency in September 2010. Two months ago, he predicted that Israel would
attack and said that doing so would be "the stupidest thing" he could
imagine. According to
When asked about what would happen in the aftermath of an Israeli attack
Dagan said that: "It will be followed by a war with Iran. It is the kind of
thing where we know how it starts, but not how it will end."
The Iranians have the capability to fire rockets at Israel for a period of
months, and Hizbollah could fire tens of thousands of grad rockets and
hundreds of long-range missiles, he said.
According to Ben Caspit of the Israeli daily *Maariv*, Dagan's blasts at
Israel's political leadership are significant not only because Mossad
chiefs, in office or retired, traditionally have kept their lips sealed, but
also because Dagan is very conservative on security matters.
Caspit writes that Dagan is "one of the most rightwing militant people ever
born here. ... When this man says that the leadership has no vision and is
irresponsible, we should stop sleeping soundly at night".
Dagan describes the current Israeli government as "dangerous and
irresponsible" and views speaking out against Netanyahu as his patriotic
And his abhorrence of Netanyahu is not uncommon in the Israeli security
*Think Progress*, citing the
* newspaper, 12 of the 18 living ex-chiefs of Israel's two security agencies
(Mossad and Shin Bet), are "either actively opposing Netanyahu's stances or
have spoken out against them". Of the remaining six, two are current
ministers in Netanyahu government, leaving a grand total of four out of 18
who independently support the prime minister.
In short, while Congress dutifully gives Netanyahu 29 standing ovations, the
Israelis who know the most about both Netanyahu and Israel's strategic
situation think he is a dangerous disaster.
But according to Baer, we ain't seen nothing yet.
There is almost "near certainty" that Netanyahu is "planning an attack [on
Iran] ... and it will probably be in September before the vote on a
Palestinian state. And he's also hoping to draw the United States into the
conflict", Baer explained.
The Israeli air force would attack "Natanz and other nuclear facilities to
degrade their capabilities. The Iranians will strike back where they can:
Basra, Baghdad", he said, and even Afghanistan. Then the United States would
jump into the fight with attacks on Iranian targets. "Our special forces are
already looking at Iranian targets in Iraq and across the border [in Iran]
which we would strike. What we're facing here is an escalation, rather than
a planned out-and-out war. It's a nightmare scenario. We don't have enough
troops in the Middle East to fight a war like that." Baer added, "I think we
are looking into the abyss".>
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