[Marxism] Ralph Nader, What Will this Chronically Disillusioned, Delusional Democrat do in 2012?

Mark Lause markalause at gmail.com
Sat Jul 30 17:34:08 MDT 2011

This isn't about you (or me) but what's the right approach we need to take
to understanding the political realities we face.

In 2000, Ralph Nader capped his long career of genuine service with the
largest independent progressive third party vote since Henry Wallace in
1948.  You say I miss the point about Nader because I point out that he will
not support Obama's reelection.  For you, this is not the point, because you
don't care what he DOES in 2012 or what he DID at various points prior to

What concerns you are what you say are his motives.  And I, as a materialist
concerned about what he did and does am missing the point.

It mattered that people showed up to antiwar demonstrations during those
large marches over Vietnam.  Should we have excluded those who marched
because they didn't want to be drafted?  Or because they thought the war was
bad for the U.S. image in the world?  Or because they thought imperialism
could better be served by diplomacy?   I repeat that what someone does
rather than motives someone ascribes to them are more important.

You reject the idea of trying to move the Democratic (or Republican)
politicians to the left in favor of some unspecified project.  The reality
is that movements move politicians.  If people go into motion, the
politicians will also go into motion to maintain their credibility.  In
fact, I don't know how you'd stop that.

These are not matters of high Marxist theory but low Newtonian physics.  You
are sitting under the apple tree complaining that Ralph Nader or Cynthia
McKinney or this or that other person hasn't made applesauce for you.  (And,
of course, you are unhappy with me for pointing this out.)

What should happen RIGHT NOW is for leaders of the ISO, the Socialist Party,
WWP, PSL, Solidarity, Socialist Action, etc., etc., etc. to have a serious
strategy session somewhere to organize the biggest impact we could have on
the 2012 election.

In fact, if we had started this process in the wake of the 2000 elections in
pushing large local and state insurgent campaigns, we might not be facing
such a bleak situation in 2012.


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