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johnedmundson at paradise.net.nz johnedmundson at paradise.net.nz
Sat Aug 11 20:05:57 MDT 2012

Ken Hiebert:
> This set me asking myself what is the dress code for women in the Iranian
> parliament. i have been unable to find determine that. If it turns out that
> there is an Islamic dress code for women in the Iranian parliament, what should
> we conclude about the Iranian Revolution?

Um, that it's a reactionary theocratic police state???

Conservative dress code is a symptom of the conservative religious beliefs of
many people in the region. In the absence of an environment where politics can
be openly discussed, religion has become a primary domain of organising. If
there were a socialist revolution in the Middle East tomorrow, plenty of people
would still live by religious traditions, including dress code. I was speaking
on Friday to a young Iranian woman (born since the revolution and growing up in
a non-religious family in Teheran). Wearing a full chador while at home in Iran
was no big deal for her even though she isn't the least bit religious and wears
Western clothing - skirts etc - while living in the West.

Using incidents like the one in the Libyan Parliament as an "I told you so" is
of no benefit to anyone. We all know the revolutions in the Arabic speaking
world are not socialist revolutions so fixating on issues like these add nothing.

I think Clay was wrong to liken the Libyan Parliament to various religious
buildings where an outsider would observe customs out of respect, but to use an
incident like this to condemn the Libyan revolution doesn't add anything. It
simply tells us what we already knew - that there were and are reactionaries in
leadership roles in the revolution. Abdul Jalil was a Gaddafi regime official
after all. The debate about whether or not the ousting of Gaddafi and his
multi-millionaire playboy "anti-imperialist" heirs from power was a nett good
for the Libyan people is not really furthered by this.

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