[Marxism] Amnesty Calls on UN to stop the US, Qatar and Turkey funding and arming Syria Rebels

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Tue Aug 28 19:22:01 MDT 2012


Whatever the peculiarities of the Russian church today - and it's a bit different from the pre-revolutionary church - it's hard to miss the fact that the most extensive anti-capitalist discourse in the Global South today is Christianity, primarily Catholic Christianity. There aren't many competitors. 

On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Tom Cod <tomcod3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Really, like since when have Marxists been concerned about the
> "Russian Church" being "cohesive".  Who thinks like that?  not the
> Bolsheviks or the Mensheviks, certainly not the SRs or anyone
> progressive.  As in Spain, the Church was viewed as an anathema as a
> bastion of feudalist reaction and a sponsor of pogroms.  Historically,
> The Black Hundreds, White Guardists, racist Pamyat skinheads and other
> reactionaries are the kind of people who upheld the Church.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/28/12 7:08 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
>> 
>>> (2) One of the few attempts I've seen to assess the class forces at work
>>> in the Pussy Riot affair is
>>> <http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/23/the-secret-history-of-pussy-riot/>.
>>> 
>> 
>> You're joking, right?
>> 
>> Israel Shamir, the knucklehead author, writes:
>> 
>> "And indeed the Russian Church was attacked by forces that do not want
>> Russia to be cohesive: the oligarchs, big business, the media lords, the
>> pro-Western intelligentsia of Moscow, and Western interests which naturally
>> prefer Russia divided against itself."
>> 
>> "Do not want Russia to be cohesive?"
>> 
>> "Prefer Russia divided against itself"?
>> 





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