[Marxism] Paul Le Blanc responds to Pham Binh's ....
lnp3 at panix.com
Thu Feb 2 12:53:22 MST 2012
On 2/2/2012 2:37 PM, glparramatta wrote:
> And Paul Le Blanc responds to Pham Binh's reply to ....
Another Leninist organisation to which I belonged was the Fourth
Internationalist Tendency (1984-92), an admirable and quite
democratic group, in my view -- see
From my studies, the same is basically true of the Bolshevik
party under Lenin. In the United States, it is also true of the
Communist Party of the United States up to 1924 or so, the
Communist League of America, the Workers Party of the United
States and the Socialist Workers Party from 1938 at least up to
the 1960s or 1970s. I do not claim that this is an exhaustive list.
I dunno. I was in the SWP in the 60s and 70s and find the
adjective "democratic" problematic at best. Basically, you had the
right to say anything you wanted in the 3 months leading up to a
convention without getting expelled--just as long as it was within
the parameters of what was deemed acceptable. If you stepped over
the line, you'd get stigmatized as "anti-party" and isolated
socially and politically. The basic problem with such groups was
not Darkness at Noon visitations by Jack Barnes's lieutenants but
an awful kind of peer pressure that prevented you from speaking
For example, I got up at a city conference in NYC in 1978 and told
comrades that I was transferring to Kansas City where I hoped to
get a job in industry as part of the "turn". I urged others to
follow my example since the opportunities for "colonizing"
industry were unparalleled. The workers were athirst for our
revolutionary message. Blah-blah-blah.
Later that day I told some close friends who were about as
alienated from the party leadership and its idiotic "turn" as I
was that I was saying things I did not believe. I just wanted to
fit in. Here I was, a rebel from the age of 13 censoring myself.
Nobody tortured me into making a fool of myself. I did it all on
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