[Marxism] China Already Has 100 Million Electric Vehicles (really?)

Greg McDonald gregmc59 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 11 04:15:46 MDT 2012

You would need to look at the size of the batteries on these bikes and
get a median estimate of the amount of electricity needed to charge
them. For all intents and purposes, from what i know about the small
batteries used for these bikes, it is not a lot of juice.

There are a few companies here in the USA which retrofit upright and
recumbent bikes with various types of batteries. My favorite is
ecospeed--high quality stuff.


On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 1:07 AM, DW <dwaltersmia at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I get Michaels' question.
> Well, yes, electric vehicles lower gasoline consumption directly. Obviously
> a good thing. But does the electricity from the wall socket used to charge
> the electric vehicle in turn produce MORE GHG and particulate that would
> otherwise be made from the gasoline? This is the gist of the NNadir blog I
> linked to on the DailyKos.
> In China 80% of the electricity is generated by coal. In the US it's 49%.
> The other 51% is, in order of size, natural gas, nuclear, hydro. So does
> this differential between the Chinese 80+% and the US' 30% make electric
> vehicles somwhat more benign? I don't know. Don't have an answer. Certainly
> NOT as bad as in China. But that is US totals. You, like myself, live in
> California where the load is only about 8% coal from out of state. The
> majority is natural, gas, then nuclear, then hydro. So that's a plus
> clearly, especially with regards to particulate. And in your area
> specifically, the northern part of the state, the hydro is much bigger
> still so it seems to make sense...if you can justify spending so much money
> for 20 miles round trip a few times a month, hell, I'd get a motorcycle and
> have fun doing it!
> Then again, knowing where you live, your summer electric bills for air
> conditioning must be quite high, yes?
> David

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