[Marxism] Left Forum 2012

Manuel Barrera mtomas3 at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 20 17:43:56 MDT 2012

Eli: "is there a different Libya and Syria than the ones I'm familiar with? Because in the real world [sic] where I live ..."

I guess so, Eli, but your point and those of others responding here is precisely why it is important for "us" to make a more up-to-date contribution on the nature of the state and the task of revolutionaries. I think it is a topsy-turvy world indeed when marxist revolutionaries base their political, and economic, positions on how and whether imperialists (and their lackeys) fight among themselves and then we in knee-jerk fashion just do and say the opposite. The real lessons of Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Trotsky were their commitment to the SCIENCE of socialism and revolution not just saying "no" to the oppressors' "yes". I'm all for distrusting the motives of the imperialists (and, also, btw, their minions in the national bourgeoisies--of leftist and rightist stripes), but "dayum", dude?! Can't we come up with something a bit better than Pavlovian oppositional responses as if we were political maze rats?

More substantially, perhaps nothing has really changed regarding the nature of the state since Lenin's time and his analysis remains the gold standard. However, it would be useful even to verify the point. I remain interested if comrades could point me to any such works that could prove educational and instructive to emerging revolutionaries with analyses that speak to the "reality where [we] live". 		 	   		  

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