[Marxism] The SWP

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Wed Mar 21 14:26:32 MDT 2012

On 3/21/2012 3:58 PM, jay rothermel wrote:
> The Yahoo SWP ghetto Louis set up is a moral swamp of hearsay which I
> happily no longer visit.  I am sure the discussion of Barry's book will
> devolve there into typically loathsome displays of gossip and
> scandal-mongering very quickly.

When leaders of self-described proletarian parties use the 
resources of the party for their personal benefit, this is a 
breach with socialist morality whether or not this matters to you. 
It certainly matters to the rest of us, including Barry Sheppard 
who documents it in v. 2 of his memoir.

> This decision was made after an unprecedented number of contacts and
> Militant subscriptions registered the party's appeal among workers in the
> area.

Oh please, I personally sold more subscriptions to 
African-American workers in Harlem in the 1960s than the SWP's 
latest sub-drive. (Not that this had any effect on anything or 

> The ACS and other lockouts, and the resistance to them, has far greater
> political weight than any city's OWS.

You forgot to call them petty-bourgeois. Losing your proletarian 
mettle? Eat some Raw Bits cereal to get yourself right.

> The idea that there is something called the "American left" [to use the
> moderator's phrase from the quote above] or that it is a worthwhile place
> for communists to spend their time and energy, itself speaks volumes.

So piss off.

> Those who talk about SWP cults of personality and undemocratic measures
> need to face up to something.  No communist or revolutionary party in any
> country avoided the demographic slump that started in the eighties.

This from somebody who crossposts articles from an obscure 
Hoxha-ite sect...

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