[Marxism] Michael Moore’s Repellent Defense of “Zero Dark Thirty”

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Mon Jan 28 10:08:11 MST 2013

Counterpunch January 28, 2013

Wishful Thinking About Gorgeous, Murdering CIA Thugs
Michael Moore’s Repellent Defense of “Zero Dark Thirty”


Michael Moore sure can make up a lot of dialogue for scenes he thinks 
happened off screen, in “Zero Dark Thirty.”

He freely invents quotes for President Obama, writing words no one else 
has ever quoted Obama as saying.  Here’s Moore’s Obama, scolding the CIA:

“Go find bin Laden – and don’t use torture. Torture is morally wrong. 
Torture is the coward’s way. C’mon – we’re smart, we’re the USA … Use 
your brains (like I do) and, goddammit, get to work!”

Were you writing fiction, Mike, or were you basing your script “on first 
hand accounts of actual events.”  (The claim of Bigelow and Mark Boal in 
“Zero.”)  In any case, your made-up dialogue belongs on Saturday Night 
Live, not in a serious defense of Bigelow and Boal.

Actually, I’d like to believe a scene like the one you wrote did take 
place, Mike, but it’s more like wishful thinking on your part. After 
all, what exactly has Obama done to bring these torturing incompetents 
to justice?

Torture abolitionists aren’t arguing whether or not “Zero Dark Thirty” 
portrays torture as “effective” (it does, though Bigelow and Boal 
consistently fudge the point).  We know it’s morally wrong and a crime. 
  BUT, like it or not, Mike, there are many Americans who are morally 
uncomfortable with torture, but they accept it as a necessary, 
“effective,” tool in the “War on Terror.”  If those people learn that 
torture doesn’t work, they might, eventually, come to condemn it.

Torture abolitionists don’t need you to tell them that arguments about 
the “effectiveness” of torture can be a trap.  Yes, such arguments can 
distract us from the real point — Torture is a moral abomination AND a 
crime.  Torture abolitionists have been making that point for a long 
time,  since way before Fox’s “24″ went on the air (2001), and made 
Kiefer Sutherland America’s poster boy for torture.

What are the real reasons torture abolitionists are criticizing “Zero 
Dark Thirty”?

Because the heroine of the film (Jessica Chastain as Maya) and Maya’s 
mentor Dan, commit a grievous crime — torture — and they are never, 
ever, condemned for their crimes, and they are never brought to justice. 
(Please, Michael, don’t say they’re innocent because Cheney, Rumsfeld, 
Gonzales and Woo defined many forms of torture as, well, NOT torture.)

Instead of being indicted, these torturers are presented as heroes, as 
brave and dedicated “detectives.”  No one gives Maya or Dan the kind of 
scolding, which you envision Obama giving, off-screen.  Chastain’s Maya, 
is presented as especially admirable, a feminist action hero.  She not 
only gets her man; she also muscles CIA male chauvinists out of the way, 
as she pushes ahead on “The Greatest Manhunt in History.”  And we’re 
supposed to empathize and cheer her on.

But along the way on her quest, she learns the fine art of torture, from 
Dan.  And she learns fast.  When she’s left alone with their first 
victim, Ammar, he begs her for help.  Having learned to stop flinching 
at Dan’s cruelty, she coldly replies, “You can help yourself by being 

Later, Chastain gets to supervise the torture of her own detainee, 
Faraj.  She has him punched out, as she shouts, “You’re not being 
fulsome in your replies!”  Then she has Faraj waterboarded.

We’ve already seen these “enhanced techniques” used on Ammar.  But 
Chastain’s Maya employs a new one:

She orders a liquid — a thick, brown liquid — to be poured into a funnel 
which has been forced into Faraj’s mouth and rammed partway down his 
throat.  Some of this brown liquid will spill from the sides of Faraj’s 
mouth; some will go into his lungs, the rest, into his stomach.

Sadly, for Maya, Faraj refuses to give up any critical information.  She 
complains to her mentor about Faraj’s resistance, adding, “And that’s 
using every measure we have.”  Dan replies, “Either he’s gonna keep 
withholding, or he’s gonna die from the pressure you’re putting on him.” 
  Maya then looks hopefully at Dan and says, “Hey, you wanna take a run 
at him?”  Dan declines, so Chastain has to resume putting “pressure” on 
Faraj by herself.

We don’t see Chastain torturing Faraj on-screen any more, but, in later 
dialogue, we learn that her “pressure” has finally killed him.  Her 
station colleague, Jessica, sees that Maya is frustrated in her quest. 
Jessica tries to snap her out of it:  ”So Faraj went south on you. It 
happens.”  With that comment, we learn that Chastain/Maya’s frustration 
isn’t about Faraj STILL withholding (How many more times did she pour 
that thick brown liquid down his throat?).  She’s upset because her 
detainee, still withholding, “went south” on her.  Do you get it, 
Michael?  Your heroine murdered another human being, in the course of 
torturing him.  And she is never called to account.

Torture is not a feminist act, and it’s way out of line to imply that 
Chastain — this gorgeous, murdering CIA thug — is a feminist hero.

Out of line and disappointing.  In “Capitalism, a Love Story,” you 
interviewed a priest who was based in your home town of Flint. 
Memorable scene.  I’d like to know how he would interpret this film’s 
moral stance on torture.

Because, Mike, torture isn’t a Left-Right thing.  It’s a Good-Evil thing.

Dave Clennon is a long-time actor and political agitator, probably best 
known for portraying the advertising mogul Miles Drentell on ABC’s 
thirtysomething.  His performance as Miles earned him an Emmy 
nomination.  His more recent projects include Syriana, Grey’s Anatomy 
and Weeds.  He won an Emmy for his performance in an episode of HBO’s 
Dream On.  Long-time fans of John Carpenter’s classic The Thing treasure 
his delivery of the line — after seeing a mind-blowing human-to-monster 
transformation — “You gotta be fuckin’ kidding.”

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