[Marxism] Assad's backers on the left are ignoring reality

Lester Schonbrun schonbrun at gmail.com
Thu May 9 07:54:51 MDT 2013


All I know or remember about Jared Israel is that he had a website
denouncing the war on Serbia, that he liked some things I wrote against
that war, and posted them.

But I’m glad that was brought up, because I think the demonization of
Milosevic resembles the demonization of Assad, and is a shining example of
the pattern of creating a demon du jour, the better to bomb, divide,
conquer and create another remote stronghold for the US army, while
chopping up a quasi-socialist country with many social guarantees that
Americans hunger for into smaller political entities.  Those smaller
countries, stripped of any safety net, are far more vulnerable and
delectable to US, British, French and German corporate dominance.

For about a decade before the US dumped bombs and cruise missiles on to the
heads of helpless Serbs in 1999, it was rare to see a NY Times without
coming across an article that made you want to hate Serbs and Milosevic.  I
remember being scoffed at by a friend for thinking this was a precursor to
US/Nato aggression.

Today we hear next to nothing about that region.  Has life improved there
because we succeeded in helping break the country into six or more ethnic
enclaves and bringing in the IMF, and strippig the country of its social
safety net?

I believe Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo is one of our biggest and most modern
overseas bases, Jacuzzis and all.  I don’t believe we have done anything to
improve anyone’s life in the Balkans, except stop reporting the misery once
the corporate goals had been achieved.

The same could be said for Iraq, Libya, Panama, Vietnam, Korea,
Afghanistan, and a very long list of others.

LS


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:

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> No offence, Louis, but I have no idea what you are talking about--smile.
> What is the web site you are referring to?
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> Honestly, Lester has a point.
> I am pretty sure that Assad is not an ideal leader whom I as a Marxist
> could
> endorse--smile.
> The thing that worries me is what our own imperialism is planning an
> intervention in Syria.
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> Since, Louis, I notice you don't suffer fools  lightly, I ask you to be
> gentle with me...do you think we are witnessing  a pre- Iraq style
> propaganda build-up to an intervention headed by US imperialism in Syria?
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> Right now I am not addressing whether the rebels are good guys or not, but
> asking about what imperialism's intentions are.
> I know you're not a mind-reader, but just trying to get a take on your
> analysis.
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> Once again, thanks for all the hard work in keeping this list going.
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> Fraternally,
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> Dan W.
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> On 5/9/13 2:45 AM, Lester Schonbrun wrote:
> > It's a sad fact that I have no idea whose reporting to trust about Syria.
> >   I watched the video.  I saw no way of telling from it alone who or
> > what was responsible for the destruction.  I would think that our "black
> ops"
> > people, or the Mossad's, are capable of such false-flag operations,
> > but who can say for sure?
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> Don't you realize that you are embarrassing yourself by writing these
> things? But then again, anybody who wrote for Jared Israel's website is
> probably beyond being embarrassed.
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