[Marxism] Reply to Richard Seymour.

Lenin's Tomb leninstombblog at googlemail.com
Fri May 10 05:42:16 MDT 2013


Andrew, it's very simple.  You have a genuine tactical disagreement with the SWP about how to 'relate' to the supporters of Islamist parties and groups - but in trying to make this more interesting than it really is, you have distorted what you are commenting on.  You asserted that the SWP was seeking to 'attract' 'fascists', and based this on statements made in the party's newspaper.  It's self-evident from the statements you quote that this isn't the case.  It's a distortion, redolent of McCarthyite innuendo: hence, 'Islam-baiting'.

As regards your long interest in Bangladesh, from a glance at the 'Bangladesh' tagged posts on your blogs, it seems to consist of cringe-worthy, patronising, Orientalist sentimentality; Gilliganesque connecting-the-dots drivel; and the usual axe-grinding against various socialists and leftists.  But this is, admittedly, a view coloured by my existing disdain for your politics.



On 10 May 2013, at 11:39, andrew coates <pabs47 at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Richard Seymour says that I have 'form' on Islam.
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> I certainly have form on Bangladesh,  a country which I covered for some years on Tendance Coatesy.
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> The Blog has also backed the Bangladeshi secularists and those seeking justice for the islamists' victims of the war of national liberation.
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> Seymour continues, " Predictably, he distorts with the SWP is saying: they say the Left 
> should aim to attract 'those who look to Islamists', not 'fascists' - 
> ie, to attract people away from the Islamists toward socialist politics"
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> The presence of Kimber, National Secretary of the SWP at a London 
> Islamist demonstration in support of these reactionaries cannot be so  easily
> explained away.
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> The SWP has a basis on which they believe they can 'attract' those who support the Islamists.
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> It is based on the idea that in the "struggle" against the State, the masses will become radicalised.
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> This will provide favourable ground for the left to attract people.
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> Such a premises ignores, totally, the reactionary ideology of the Bangladeshi Islamists, and the basis on which they are fighting the Awami-led government and their state.
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> It is as if ideology will simply melt away in the 'struggle'
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> The SWP too has 'form' they have a record of being "with" the Islamists "against the state".
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> This is the method they have adopted to get people away from the Islamists in the Arab world.
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> It has proved wholly false.
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> Andrew Coates
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