[Marxism] Is there a 'US war on Syria'? The Syrian uprising, the Assad regime, the US and Israel | Links International Journal of Socialist Renewal

Lester Schonbrun schonbrun at gmail.com
Sun May 12 05:54:27 MDT 2013


Louis,

You are right that I do not know the views of the Syrian opposition,
moderate or otherwise.  I would like to know them, and I think it might be
an appropriate function of this list to inform us of where to find those
views.

One reason I'm suspicious of the rush to judge Assad is that so little
information is readily available on what changes the rebels want to see in
Syria, other than "democracy."   In so many places, the call for
"democracy" has been followed by the introduction of the IMF, the purchase
of US military hardware, participation in war against Iraq and Afghanistan,
etc.

What is the Syrian opposition view on the level of socialism/privatization
in Syria?  Working conditions?  Etc., etc.,

It is interesting to know that Granma (and hence, I assume the Cuban CP),
sees the uprising in Syria as part of a US-aided effort at destabilization.

I'm grateful to this list for that and many other informative posts.

LS


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> wrote:

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> On 5/12/13 1:50 AM, Lester Schonbrun wrote:
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>> Hack or not, how do those who claim the US is backing Assad answer her
>> allegation:
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> I see you maintain the same level of accuracy as the Granma International
> hack.
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> Nobody has made such a claim here. The US and Israel are opposed to both
> Assad and to the combatants, either FSA or the al-Nusra front. It would
> like to see them locked in battle for as long as it takes to turn Syria
> into a pile of rubble after the fashion of the Iran-Iraq war.
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> I doubt that someone like you has ever bothered to check the views of the
> Syrian "moderate" opposition, but you can be sure that this is not the kind
> of leader Obama or Netanyahu want to see in power in Syria. I can't vouch
> for the accuracy of the reporting but when a magazine published by the
> Washington Post says things like this, you and your "anti-imperialist" pals
> will not have to worry much about another Iraq:
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> http://www.foreignpolicy.com/**articles/2012/11/14/islamist_**in_chief<http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/14/islamist_in_chief>
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> Foreign Policy Magazine
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> Islamist-In-Chief
> The new leader of Syria's opposition has a history of statements that are
> anti-Semitic, outrageous, and sometimes downright bizarre.
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> BY MOHANAD HAGE ALI | NOVEMBER 14, 2012
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> The election of the Cairo-based Khatib, a former imam of Damascus's
> historic Umayyad Mosque who was imprisoned under Assad, is a crucial part
> of this strategy. Western media outlets such as the BBC were quick to
> declare him "a respected figure within Syria" who holds "moderate"
> political views, citing his trips to Britain and the United States, as well
> as his teaching experience at the Dutch Institute in Damascus, as evidence.
> However, public statements posted on the clergyman's website, darbuna.net,
> paint a different picture.
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> Khatib's animosity toward the West is similarly evident in his writing. In
> one article, written in 2011, the new coalition leader speaks of "stupid
> American, cunning British, and malignant French diplomacy." He also accuses
> Western powers of propping up the old Egyptian regime and working to weaken
> the country for their own ends. "The collapse of the Egyptian regime is the
> beginning of the international regional system's descent," he writes. "The
> collapse of Egypt itself is an enormous Israeli desire [emanating] from its
> frightening project to split the region into repugnant sectarian entities."
>
> The new Syrian opposition leader doesn't hesitate to stoke Muslims' fears
> of persecution at the hands of the West. He posted on his website a
> flamboyant Dutch Radio report on the imminent ethnic cleansing of Europe's
> Muslim minorities, based on statements by right-wing European figures and
> Rached Ghannouchi, the leader of the Tunisia's Islamist Al-Nahda party,
> which is now a major partner in the country's coalition government.
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> Khatib is also a fan of Qatar-based Egyptian televangelist cleric Yusuf
> al-Qaradawi. His website places Qaradawi on equal footing with Tunisia's
> Mohamed Bouazizi, whose self-immolation set off the Arab revolutions, and
> praised the Egyptian preacher as "our great Imam." Qaradawi is a
> controversial figure who has been denied entry to France and Britain for
> his support of suicide bombings -- he has described such attacks, when used
> against Israel civilians, as "evidence of God's justice." Given Qaradawi's
> Qatari connections, Khatib's praise of the cleric may be an indication of
> where his loyalties lie.
>
> Taken as a whole, these statements raise disturbing questions about
> whether Syria's new opposition leader is truly as "moderate" as he has been
> described in the press. His religious and political views appear divisive
> and at odds with the reassuring image Syria's opposition is trying to
> present -- both domestically and on the international front. Rather than a
> positive step forward, Khatib's leadership suggests that Syria's opposition
> is poised to repeat the same mistakes that have bedeviled it since the
> beginning of the revolt.
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