[Marxism] Geneva Conference

Clay Claiborne clayclai at gmail.com
Thu May 23 21:34:33 MDT 2013


Thank you Louis for striking near the heart of the matter. the real
tragedy, from a Marxist POV, is that the methods use to arrive at these
counter-revolutionary conclusions have nothing in common with
dialectical-materialism.

I would like to offer an alternate view of the motivations of Qatar and
Saudi Arabia for supporting democratic revolutions in Libya and Syria,
which i will be developing more fully in a blog
post<http://claysbeach.blogspot.com>on Arab nationalism. The short
answer is that it is very important in
justifying their monarchies and wealth to the Arab nation. This also why
they have strongly supported the Palestinian cause - or is that because
they hope for a pipeline through Israel?


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> wrote:

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> On 5/20/13 10:28 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
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>> "But not for - guess who? - Qatar and Turkey. Qatar dreams of a rival
>> pipeline from its North field (contiguous with Iran's South Pars
>> field), through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and finally Turkey (which
>> bills itself as the privileged energy transit hub between East and
>> West). Final destination: once again, Western Europe.
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> Pepe Escobar is the epitome of what is referred to here:
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> Whereas the smaller bloc of the left has hardened its old positions, as if
> nothing happened after the end of the Cold War, and with time its attitudes
> and methods became of the same nature as that of the Taliban-Jihadis or
> dogmatic closed-minded sectarians, or even that of terrorist “Bin
> Ladenites,” in its blind defiance of the West, global capitalism (a global
> capitalism that Russia and China are now a part of) and imperialism. This
> bloc from the left, in the Arab world and internationally, is today the
> most hostile to the Syrian revolution and the closest to defending the
> tyrannical military-security-familial regime using several arguments, not
> least of which is that the entire world plotted, apparently, against this
> regime that is peace-loving and stable. This type of leftist emphasizes
> “the game of nations” and “geopolitical analysis,” with stories of
> collision of interests and plans of the great powers and their dominance in
> our region, and does not want to view the revolution in Syria through
> anything other than through this lens, and neglects all that happens inside
> Syria and to Syria’s revolutionaries today, as well as ignoring all the
> reasons that led its people to a peaceful revolution, and later to taking
> up arms in the face of a “nationalist” tyranny that is allied with this
> kind of leftist. In other words, this leftist has no problem with
> sacrificing Syria if it leads to a victory being handed to their
> international camp and “geopolitics” that wants a global victory in the
> “game of nations.” Their first priority is not Syria or its people in
> revolt to restore the republic, their freedom, and their dignity, but the
> game of nations at the global level of analysis and the side that they want
> to win.
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> full: http://therepublicgs.net/2013/**04/27/interview-with-dr-sadiq/<http://therepublicgs.net/2013/04/27/interview-with-dr-sadiq/>
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