[Marxism] Why the two groups in Australia had no hopes of fusing

Stuart Munckton stuartmunckton at gmail.com
Tue Nov 19 21:58:33 MST 2013

SAlt make an issue of this, not Socialist Alliance. I think it is
ridiculous, but in my opinion sums up SAlt's sectarian approach and use of
endless declarations of beiong 'revolutionary" as an artificial dividing
line -- a way tpo put walls around them. In 2013 Australia, abstract
declarations of being "revolutionary" are not real dividing lines of

On 20 November 2013 13:38, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> wrote:

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> This from Nick Fredman of the Socialist Alliance, an arguably less
> sectarian group:
> "Oakley, for example, suggests that capitalism “cannot” be overthrown
> without an “insurrection”, a term usually denoting an armed revolt (perhaps
> Oakley did not mean this). We’d prefer to adapt the slogan of the
> nineteenth century Chartist movement: “peaceably if we can, forcibly if we
> must”."
> They fucking can't get together because of differences over what approach
> to take to armed struggle. In a country no less that has a heavy fog of
> "depoliticization" hanging over it? God help us.
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