[Marxism] Is Putin Really Planning To Bomb Saudi Arabia? And Syrian rebels with sarin tripping in tunnels ...
mkaradjis at gmail.com
Wed Sep 11 09:07:56 MDT 2013
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From: "Daniel Rocha" <danieldiniz at gmail.com>
> So, you don't believe in the leaks?
Huh? Seeing your link I thought, OK, here's somethingthat might have
some evidence I wasn;t aware of. So I read through three pages and found
nothing of the sort. In an article from 2010, before the Syrian uprising
began, in an article that doesn't even refer to Syria (and thus the very
specific reasons I gave as to why the Saudis especially don't want to
support jihadis there), and which certainly doesn;t touch on anything as
major as supplying chemical weapons, we read that *private Saudi
citizens* are suspected of funding various extremist groups, such as the
Taliban (which we know the Saudi state did support in the past, but
which explicitly does *not* have any agenda outside of Afganistan), and
one of which is Al Qaida. The article then also talked about how Saudi
Arabia and the US were cooperating to beef up the state's ability to
Why did you waste my time by telling me to read all that?
> What is the problem in funding your
Good god, imagine anyone thinking there was any problem with funding
your enemy, or even perhaps supplying them with chemical weapons.
> Religious ideologies or nearly all non socialist ideologies are
> secondary or at most instrumental to primitive accumulation.
Yeh, likely we'll see Israel begin selling chemical weapons to Hamas and
Hezbollah just to make a buck, you know what capitalists are like.
> You can
> interpret that action as al Qaeda asking for more support, more money
Interpret what action?
When, in what context might al Qaida be allegedly asking for even "more"
money from the Saudis, on top of all the money that you haven't shown
they've been providing? Was the "action" that of not receiving the
chemical weapons the Saudis provided because the FSA bumblers tripped
over and spilt thr sarin (perhaps al-Qaida had a spy in the FSA that
tripped them up), as a way of asking the Saudis to supply them nuclear
> Just like the 2nd intifada was interrupted when Mahmoud Abbas got
> enough money to shut up.
And then when I point out that Syria is extremely close to Saudi Arabia,
separated only by smallish Jordan, you try to give my a geography
lesson, telling me that Iraq is there too. Yes, from eastern Syria you
can cross Iraq to get to SA, but from south central Syria, like near
Damascus, you cross the narrowest part of Jordan. Your point was
entirely irrelevant, sow why make it?
Let's cut to the chase: you believe its not proven who carried out the
chemical attack. Fine, the discussion here is not about who has absolute
proof. The discussion was about a particular hair-brained theory
involving Saudi Arabia, the FSA, al-Qaida, tunnels, tripping and
spilling sarin, and somehow that spilled sarin getting to 8 villages,
and all the rest.
I simply made the point that the Saudi *regime* (not some private
citizens) supplying chemical weapons to Al-Qaida made the story
immediately unbelievable. You are apparently so attached to the
particular story that you claim it is normal to arm you arch enemies
with chemical weapons, you dig up irrelevant articles from 2010 that
don;t mention Syria, and you try to give geography lessons that are
Why not use your creative energies to try cooking up your own
alternative conspiracy theory instead? It could hardly have more holes
than the one you're defending.
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