[Marxism] Two Views of Podemos

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Mon Dec 1 10:26:11 MST 2014


On 12/1/14 11:23 AM, James Creegan via Marxism wrote:
> But Louis might pause in his rush to join the left-reformists
> long enough to  consider this fact: left-reformism,
> even (and especially) where it has achieved its electoral
> aims, hasn't "worked" either. Left-reformist governments
> have come under massive political and economic attacks from the
> ruling classes, for which they have no answer.

I have a totally different estimation of Podemos than you. That might be 
a function of the fact that I spent the better part of two days reading 
25 articles on the party, including some key documents in Spanish, a 
language I have some familiarity with.

In all the posts you have written here, you have not said a single word 
that address the substance of Podemos. Instead you are writing in 
generalizations of such a broad nature that you make an amalgam of 
Mitterand and Podemos, without evincing the slightest interest in the 
fact that Podemos arose over disgust with Spanish Mitterandism: Felipe 
Gonazalez and his minions.

Yesterday I mentioned that their key economic document was co-written by 
a long-standing contributor to Monthly Review and another economist who 
likened German domination of Southern European nations to Nazism. What 
would transform the document they wrote into a "revolutionary" program? 
Calling for the nationalization of industry and a planned economy? Maybe 
the sort of approach they are taking is more consistent with what Lenin 
advocated in Czarist Russia. You will note that he says zero about 
socialism:

"We think that the working-class party should define the demands made on 
this point more thoroughly and in greater detail; the party should 
demand: 1) an eight-hour working day; 2) prohibition of night-work and 
prohibition of the employment of children under 14 years of age; 3) 
uninterrupted rest periods, for every worker, of no less than 36 hours a 
week; 4) extension of factory legislation and the Factory Inspectorate 
to all branches of industry and agriculture, to government factories, to 
artisan establishments, and to handicraftsmen working at home; election, 
by the workers, of assistant inspectors having the same rights as the 
inspectors; 5) establishment of factory and rural courts for all 
branches of industry and agriculture, with judges elected from the 
employers and the workers in equal numbers; etc."

full: 
http://louisproyect.org/2011/01/05/rethinking-the-question-of-a-revolutionary-program/







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