[Marxism] Reply: Mobs in Tahrir Square?

mary lynn mllynn2 at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 17 09:20:57 MST 2014

thank you for you feedback. I had changed "director" to "producer."  Obviously I did not get the corrected copy to Counterpunch; and mistakenly sent them the one with errors.   My fault; I don't always do a good job of proofreading.  Nevertheless, your graphic illustration was useful.  I also agree with your criticism of my using the word "mobs" which clearly does not reflect the diversity of individuals and groups who came out to protest in Tahrir Square.  And you probably have got my political bias correct, even if you did not read my more carefully written articles cited and written on this subject in Counterpunch and else where.  I Hope you find my previous work more acceptable and useful.  Thank you also for the reference to Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism at greenhouse.economics.utah.edu.  Mary Lynn

 From: Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com>
To: mllynn2 at yahoo.com; Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism at greenhouse.economics.utah.edu> 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 10:46 AM
Subject: Mobs in Tahrir Square?

Ms. Mary Lynn Cramer,

I read your piece in the latest Counterpunch on the documentary "The 
Square" in which you allege:

>>The very moving ‘trailer” (available at the program URL set out 
above) also ignores the years of US involvement in training, financing, 
and supplying those young “lap toppers” dedicated to the overthrow of 
Mubarak.  The director lays out the drama as originating spontaneously 
by youth from within Egypt, ignores the decades
 of labor organizing, 
massive strikes, and workers demonstrations, that the so-called “Tahrir 
square” movement fed off (co-opted); and pretty much ignores that 
history and its significance preceding the mobs in the square, and 
continuing to
 protest after the mobs retreated from the square.<<

There is so much confusion in this paragraph that one hardly knows where 
to begin. The term "embarrassment of riches" might be applicable if 
amended slightly to "embarrassment of offal".

Your reference to American skullduggery behind the Tahrir Square "mobs" 
is straight out of the Global Research toilet bowl. At least Tony 
Carlucci was consistent enough to openly describe the revolt as a 
"colored revolution", which is clearly your position as well. One 
supposes that you agree with him that the Occupy Wall Street movement 
was also a "colored revolution" since George Soros supported it, etc., 
ad nauseam.

Not that it matters very much, but your article refers to Karim
 Amer as 
the director of "The Square" when in fact he was the producer. As 
someone who obviously treats the facts as a lark, this comes as no 
surprise. The director is
 Jehane Noujaim. Just to clue you in to the 
finer points of filmmaking, a producer is responsible for the business 
end of a film while a director is the person who stands next to the 
camera and yells out "Lights, camera, action". I hope you find that helpful.

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