[Marxism] Only about 28% of people in the Donetsk region want to become part of Russia.

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Sat May 3 11:20:15 MDT 2014

Wall Street Journal, April 24, 2014 7:30 p.m. ET

Ukraine's Divisions Extend to East Itself
History Helps Explain Country's Dichotomy, but Doesn't Necessarily Mean 
People Living Near Russia Want to Secede

By James Marson And Paul Sonne

DONETSK, Ukraine—With young men standing guard over barricades of tires, 
and speeches and music blaring over loudspeakers, the pro-Russia camp 
that has taken over the regional assembly here could be an answer to the 
pro-Europe movement that emerged late last year in Kiev.

But Donetsk, one of the largest cities in eastern Ukraine, is missing 
one element that proved vital to the success of the Kiev protests in 
toppling Ukraine's pro-Russian president: people.

Thousands of activists lived on Kiev's central square for three months, 
rising to tens of thousands at weekend rallies in the capital. By 
contrast, the movement here has never attracted more than a few 
thousand. Nowadays, the square in front of the assembly building often 
has only a few dozen stragglers.

The disparity reflects the differences between Ukraine's west and east 
that are at the center of the current crisis, as well as the mixed 
feelings in Donetsk itself.

Western Ukraine was only absorbed by the Soviet Union in 1939 after 
centuries under Polish or Austrian rule. It was long a bastion of 
Ukrainian nationalism that has translated into strident political 
activism, particularly against Russian influence. Many people there 
work, study or travel in Western and Central Europe.
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The eastern heartland of Donbas was long part of the Russian empire and 
adapted quickly to Soviet centralized rule, where big steel mills, 
factories and coal mines took care of most every element of life. Few 
have traveled West, relying as before on Russia for trade and jobs.

The west is predominantly Ukrainian-speaking and idolizes nationalists 
who fought against the Soviets, at one point alongside the Nazis. In the 
east, where Russian is the main language, statues of Lenin still stand 
in town squares and the western heroes are seen as traitors.

The west was the driving force behind Kiev protests that led to the 
ouster of President Viktor Yanukovych, a Donetsk native, in February. 
The majority in Donetsk reject the new government and want closer 
economic and cultural ties with Russia.

But that doesn't mean they want to become Russian.

A recent poll showed that only about 28% of people in the Donetsk region 
want to become part of Russia. Just 18% supported the seizure of the 
regional assembly, according to the survey, which the Kiev International 
Institute of Sociology, one of the country's most respected, independent 
pollsters, conducted from April 8-16.

Asked about the low headcount outside the building, Kirill Rudenko, a 
spokesman for the protesters, said it was overflowing with people this 
month but that after Kiev began what it calls an antiterrorist operation 
last week, many went home to the outskirts.

"The time for protests is already over," he said.

Still, Russian television has given them blanket coverage, depicting the 
occupation as backed by the majority and claiming equivalence with the 
Kiev demonstrations, which it portrays as engineered by the West.
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A member of the Ukrainian special forces takes position at an abandoned 
roadblock in the eastern city of Slovyansk. AFP/Getty Images

That has prompted Moscow to suggest Ukraine's regions are too diverse to 
be governed from Kiev, and to push for a federal structure.

Ukrainian officials view that as an attempt to increase Moscow's sway 
and hobble the government's attempt to reorient the former Soviet 
republic westward. Kiev has instead offered more power to the regions 
over economic and cultural matters.

The Donetsk protesters themselves are at odds over what they want. They 
demand a referendum, but when they are pressed on what question will be 
posed, few can answer.

Compared with Kiev, it is more difficult to mobilize protesters of any 
political stripe in Donetsk, a less-youthful and more working-class city 
buttressed by surrounding steel mills, coal mines and factories, said 
Serhiy Harmash, a journalist and activist who organized a pro-Ukraine 
rally in the city last week.

"Here, people are more apolitical," Mr. Harmash said. "There is a lot 
more paternalism."

If Moscow were to send troops, more than 10% of people in the region 
would welcome them, but more than half would stay home and do nothing, 
according to the KIIS poll.

Many simply feel they have no influence on events controlled by elites 
and vested interests.

"When they decide something somewhere up above, that's when something 
will happen," said Irina Kiriyenko, a 17-year-old Donetsk student. "We 
have nothing to do with it."

Ms. Kiriyenko said, above all, people just want stability, even those 
who might sympathize with the goals of the activists.

In the KIIS poll, 42% of people in the Donetsk region cited Russia's 
economic stability and 38% political stability as what they find 
attractive about the country—even higher percentages than in eastern 
Ukraine as a whole.

After opposing demonstrations in Donetsk in March resulted in violence, 
many people became scared and lost the desire to protest. One 
demonstrator was stabbed on March 13 when a pro-Russia mob attacked a 
crowd waving Ukrainian flags.

Also, some say their ideas can't be boiled down to a clear, shared goals 
in the way the Kiev protesters—despite vastly differing backgrounds—came 
together in demanding Mr. Yanukovych's resignation and closer ties with 
the European Union.

For example, some in Donetsk favor a united Ukraine but hate the new 
authorities in Kiev, making them wary of unfurling Ukrainian flags. Some 
older people in particular want closer relations with Russia and dream 
of the old Soviet days, but nonetheless see Donetsk as part of Ukraine.

The toppling of Mr. Yanukovych shocked people in the region amid fears 
the new government wouldn't listen to their interests. Last year, when 
he seemed set to sign a free-trade deal with the European Union, Russia 
slowed its imports from Ukraine and halted some industrial cooperation 
in what was interpreted as a warning shot.

If it did so again, production in the industrial region would fall, 
sending unemployment soaring to more than 15%, estimates Dmitry Petrov, 
an analyst at Nomura.

Even so, weekly anti-Kiev protests appeared to be fading before an 
unexpected thrust in early April, which Kiev officials say was provided 
by Russian agents and money, leading to building takeovers in several 
cities. Moscow has denied involvement.

Now, apart from hotbeds like Slovyansk, the occupied buildings in places 
like Donetsk have turned into strange spectacles.

Tuesday in Donetsk, about 20 middle-aged men and women sat on makeshift 
benches behind the barricades, watching a flat-screen television taped 
to a wooden bookshelf that was beaming out a live feed of Russian state 
news. Curious passersby stopped to listen to Soviet-era poems or karaoke 

It is a different vibe from Kiev, where students were the lifeblood of 
the protests. Here they are rarely spotted. Neither have many 
blue-collar workers joined. The trade union at one of the largest metal 
plants in the region said its members supported Ukrainian unity and 
would stay at work.

At the root, however, the concerns of many in Donetsk resemble those of 
people in Kiev.

"Forget about the Donetsk Republic," said Vladimir Kovalchuk, a 
pensioner who supports the protests against Kiev but says he doesn't 
want to join Russia. "People want decent wages and pensions. They want 
the smell of meat and wine."

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